Maybe this was necessary to stop the insanity. I hope she's okay.
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There were no women in the original Olympics, either. We're just getting back to basics.
Seriously, though, how grotesque is it that combat sports are where they decided to allow this? We're lucky no one's been killed yet.
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220 sats \ 0 replies \ @kepford 1 Aug
A few years ago I heard a feminist say that men weren't satisfied with winning everything, some had to become women so they could win those prizes as well.
This cannot continue. It will implode on itself. But the damage is done.
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Grotesque is the word of the day
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I'm sorry, I am not sure what the problem here is. After all, I am not a biologist
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you must be auditioning for a Supreme Court confimation hearing
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196 sats \ 6 replies \ @TomK 1 Aug
the woke clown world is becoming increasingly absurd and sometimes even life-threatening. it all has to stop
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None of the MSM media is covering the story yet. How about Europe?
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119 sats \ 0 replies \ @TomK 1 Aug
There were some articles about it.but they don't put it into a big scheme to explain the cultural-political background. it is played down as if this was an individual case that now has to be clarified before the ordinary olympic courts. they are again caught up in technocratism to avoid the real debate
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MSNBC covered it.
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It wont stop. But you can change your reaction to it. Just ignore the fools, you will feel better.... YMMV
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Its bad. And the whole paris olympics condones this message. Look at their opening ceremony!
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South Park meme
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South Park and the Simpsons seem to know the future
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This just isnt right.
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21 sats \ 1 reply \ @Satosora 2 Aug
Maybe they should just make a new category for trans people? Just make it more fair?
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The carnival category
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A quick reminder what we’ve always heard, “don’t hit a girl.” lol. Unless she needs to be reminded of how frail they really are. The clown world has to stop
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you dont need a gender eligibility test to know thats a biological man...😮‍💨
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I just took a closer look at that dude. My God. He should be arrested for assault.
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901 sats \ 9 replies \ @gmd 1 Aug
Important to note that, she was born female identity with female genitalia (uterus, vagina) and this is not a case of a male to female transition. She looked like a normal female as a child, and that is not a woke transitioning country. Reportedly, it was only later in her life it was discovered she had underlying XY chromosomes with a genetic disorder.
Whether she should be allowed to compete or not, I can have some empathy for someone who grew up without a penis, believing they are female their whole life, wanting to pursue their passion.
To me this is a very shitty gray area, but she should not be lumped in with the born-male athletes who later transition and beat up on women.
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Thanks for providing this information. You're right. It does change the picture. The news article should have made that clear.
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I actually found it strange why the whole social media is about the woman, but barely anything about the other party. I mean, why didn't he/she speak up?
And it's so hard to verify things online with so little evidence, and people are already so busy judging / taking sides instead of verifying.
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21 sats \ 0 replies \ @gmd 1 Aug
Too bad they can’t or won’t release what the actual tests were, since they are saying they weren’t testosterone tests.
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This person was previously suspended from competition for testing positive for too much testosterone
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21 sats \ 3 replies \ @gmd 1 Aug
Probably from over-supplementation, which would be just cause to ban IMO.
Details are scant as to her actual medical issues, but reportedly she has Swyer syndrome, born with female genitalia and no cock, no balls. No balls means you would need exogenous testosterone administered, which seems to have gone overboard in her case, possibly for athletic advantage. These patients are quite rare but normally you would expect them to have low levels of all reproductive hormones, both estrogen and testosterone as they have faulty non-functional gonads.
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The International Boxing Association disqualified her. The IOC lost their minds.
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42 sats \ 1 reply \ @gmd 1 Aug
Agree it doesn’t seem right if she was disqualified from prior international competition for excessively high T levels.
But to me the discourse is just a little unfortunate and lacking nuance. People are saying she should be disqualified because she’s obviously a man. In actuality she’s genotype male but born phenotype of a female- without exogenous testosterone she would not have developed her masculine traits and would have remained phenotypically female her whole life. The real issues is she’s roided out to the gills.
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No. The testoserone tests just showed elevated levels of endogenous hormone. No evidence of supplementation. In many sports, the absolute level of Testosterone is enough to rule if someone is allowed to compete as a woman. The rules vary between the Int. Boxing Assoc. And the IOC. For detection of doping, other measures are used such as hormonal ratios (epitestosterone/testosterone) as well as tests revealing synthetic variants. There is no evidence of doping in this case. She would have been banned from all sports for next few years already otherwise.
I just took a closer look at that dude.
This is pathetic, sorry.
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See the other user's comments. This person was apparently born with a congenital birth defect... this is not the case of a 'transitioning' person.
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86 sats \ 4 replies \ @freetx 1 Aug
The truth is this: He couldn't compete against other males, so he switched genders so he could win.
This is 90% of what woke culture is.....beta-males in various forms cheating to create an advantage. Once you see things like that, things make much more sense.
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See the other user's comment. This person apparently did not 'transition'. Instead they were born anatomically female... but with XY chromosomes. Born with a vagina, uterus etc but with other genetics. Which they only discovered later through genetic testing.
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Perfect description of woke culture: beta-males, cheating, unfair advantage
"Lia" Thomas was a male swimmer who switched genders so he could win.
The biological male boxers who are punching biological women truly deserve a special place in hell or Guantanomo or both
"She" is from Algeria... greaaaaaaat
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14 sats \ 0 replies \ @guts 1 Aug
There is a good book called Woke INC, this goes beyond than just beta males.
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I have a hard time thinking transgenders would do this to win.
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Fuck this shit! I feel really sorry for Carini. This is the fourth turning and Europe is going to hell. Time to pack bags and move somewhere else. Any suggestions? Argentine seems promising.
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I bet five cents you won’t move from Europe.
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I don’t know where to go yet, but I’ll move. No question about it.
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I can recommend Russia.
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From experience? ;-)
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Oliver is a communist
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Nah
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Sad
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164 sats \ 1 reply \ @TNStacker 1 Aug
Shame on us for allowing this bullshit.
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Its really shameful. The world has really degressed!
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Caitlyn Jenner… “go back to old standards, I looked at East German women in the 70’s and I said are they playing for the right team? Then they started DNA testing. If you are XX you’re with the women. XY you’re with the men”
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They should create a new category other than man and woman. Or insert these people according to their hormone levels, just thinking out loud.
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A new category.
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A new category called Freaks and Carnivals
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21 sats \ 0 replies \ @jp305 1 Aug
Ancient Greece would totally approve
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A new category called Woke.
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This is nuts. Why would anyone think this was a good idea?
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Personally, combat or contact fights as they call them... I would not consider them a sport... that is a grotesque and inhuman savagery... that also leads young people of 15, 16 or 17 years old to fight and they are sold that theory that it is a sport and it is good... and in some of those fights they receive blows to the head and begin to suffer headaches or insomnia and drive them to madness... and not satisfied with that, as they complain about the pain, they drug them to make them faster and take away the pain... and make them addicted!! That unfortunately is not a sport.
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If you had told most of us alive 30 years ago this would be happening we would not have believed it. People being afraid to say something about a man competing in women's sports. Beating them up even. It would have been to absurd.
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This ain't sports anymore. If you can't be man, just be a woman and beat them.
If a female switched to a male, can it (can't say he or she) beat men in a boxing bout. And if it can beat after switching, they could surey beat them without switching. What's going on with the world? This is the woke that we talk about, I'm clearly and openly against it.
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Absolutely ridiculous.
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Don't let facts get in the way.... She was born female with a genetic disorder. Like Caster Semenya. She was previously banned from the boxing association for excessice endogenous testosterone levels. The IOC rules are different. She was allowed to compete. The italian got hit hard in a boxing match. Big fucking hoopla!! Think the rules don't make sense? That's a different debate. But under current rules, she, emphasis on she, deserves to be allowed to compete.
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When I posted this the article had misrepresented the facts to some extent. Clearly everyone has an agenda here on both sides. However, to allow this person to compete as a woman ignores reality. There is an obvious and unfair advantage that they are seeking to capitalize on. In 1968 would it have been fair for George Foreman to fight as a featherweight, because he felt discriminated against because of his height and weight? Maybe he always felt like a featherweight? It violates all sense of sport and fair play.
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I understand the frustration. Interestingly, the European media hasn't tried to fit it into the culture or gender wars that seem to run amok in the US. At a simple level, for all of human history, this woman would have been considered a woman due to having female sexual organs. It's only since the discovery of genetics and metabolomics that we have finer understanding of borderline phenotypes. Personnally, I think gender doesn't exist and everyone should compete against everyone (keep age and weight categories). But if you believe gender is a binary thing, then technically she is a woman.
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I see your point. I do think gender is a binary thing, but you're right that she would have been considered female through most of history.
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I’m not so sure.
Through most of history people would have used the eye test and common sense and ostracized her as a circus freak
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In the context of fight sports or actual combat, she would have been considered a goddess of war for her ability to crush skulls. And yes, I don't think gender as a category exists. It's a distribution with two peaks along a spectrum. I am a biologist. I don't care about your insecurities. By the way, if you say she should not compete because it's unfair. Then you are saying we should do genetic testing on all previous medallists and record holders across all sports to see if they were genetically advantaged and stripped of their medals and records. For fairness. That's silly.
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Watch the video and tell yourself that gender as a category exists
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And what does have that to do with anything? I know you're confused about all this, but please try to focus on the topic at hand.
You are ignoring 'her' XY chromosome
"She" is genetically advantaged vs normal women
If you think gender as a category shouldn't exist, this person should box vs men
Let's put her in actual combat! No one will object. There is no world where she is considered a goddess of anything.
The IBA already disqualified her. IOC decided to overrule them for clown world reasons.
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No such thing as a XY chromosome. But don't let that get in the way of spreaing your confused ideology.
You don’t actually believe gender does not exist.
You are repeating a transgender talking point
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The X and Y chromosomes exist for a reason, denying biology only sets us back as a species and catapult all the previous studies carried out by people who took science seriously.
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Me? No. I think there are two genders. I think the point he was making was that science couldn't prove the boxer was male until recently. You also made a good point about common sense. Circus freak went a little too far, though, in my opinion. The person was apparently born that way. The simple fact is that having the person compete as a woman violates the whole idea of fair competition.
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Not you. The other guy or person who doesn’t believe in gender
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Oh. I see. Okay, then circus freak is fine😀jk
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IOC has no rules. They improvise. Judicial activism
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What the heck hahaha this is
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I wonder what people from non-western countries think about this stuff. I think I can guess though.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @fm 1 Aug
absurd.. just like gays for Palestine.. what a fucking meme
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  1. Shitstorm here as expected.
  2. Quite positively surprised by Algeria.
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stackers have outlawed this. turn on wild west mode in your /settings to see outlawed content.
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