The first thing that entered my mind was that Tor is becoming more detectable and blockable. And that various states, China certainly, may be blocking Tor with increasing effectiveness. Back in 2012, a research paper disclosed the sophisticated methods that China leverages to detect and block Tor. With deep packet inspection as a component of digital surveillance, Tor may be facing difficult times.
The lefts (which many computer savy people are) commitment to privacy is deteriorating.
Lawyers get more and more aggressive because of piracy. Now that the music streaming and tv show streaming industries are maturing they have more resources for that.
The bot waves get worse and worse. You can see them ending up on Twitter and Instagram and phishing mails... before they end up there, their traffic gets routed through SOMETHING. Bet your ass it's a lot of load damaging Tor
Lots of Bitcoin nodes are on the same infra as Lightning nodes. Lots of LN nodes went hybrid using vps, ditching tor as it was unreliable. What time period are the drops shown in the screenshot corresponding to?
I've started to learn about this node thing. So far I know that it is the nodes that ultimately decide what Bitcoin's rules are and will be. So I assume that this is why it's a very serious situation to look into these charts.
Shouldn't nodes increase as fees go down on base layer? Also I've heard some things about Tor not being completely private with nodes being visible an law enforcement access.
Not all charts showing for dropoff:
https://21.ninja/reachable-nodes/nodes-by-net-type/
view on x.comhttps://m.stacker.news/39688
Any theories on what is causing this drop off?
The first thing that entered my mind was that Tor is becoming more detectable and blockable. And that various states, China certainly, may be blocking Tor with increasing effectiveness. Back in 2012, a research paper disclosed the sophisticated methods that China leverages to detect and block Tor. With deep packet inspection as a component of digital surveillance, Tor may be facing difficult times.
The lefts (which many computer savy people are) commitment to privacy is deteriorating.
Lawyers get more and more aggressive because of piracy. Now that the music streaming and tv show streaming industries are maturing they have more resources for that.
The bot waves get worse and worse. You can see them ending up on Twitter and Instagram and phishing mails... before they end up there, their traffic gets routed through SOMETHING. Bet your ass it's a lot of load damaging Tor
not right, alot of computer savy are poor, really poor.
economics situation is really bad ~
Poor people can afford to run a tor relay
Just as in an average computer science university dormatory. 20yo with ramen noodles and savings for 2 rent payments but the raspi going strong
I have worried about tor nodes, relays and snowflakes for the last few years.
This is a crucial infrastructure not only for Bitcoin.
Lots of Bitcoin nodes are on the same infra as Lightning nodes. Lots of LN nodes went hybrid using vps, ditching tor as it was unreliable. What time period are the drops shown in the screenshot corresponding to?
Very recently according to the charts:
https://m.stacker.news/39679
Forget my comment then. The hybrid thing is not recent.
That's unfortunate. What do you attribute this to?
Looks like a data collection anomaly #608097
Thanks
I've started to learn about this node thing. So far I know that it is the nodes that ultimately decide what Bitcoin's rules are and will be. So I assume that this is why it's a very serious situation to look into these charts.
Hasn't Tor been under denial of service attacks for a while? I wonder if that is a factor.
I have noticed Tor performance has degraded over the past year. I mean its always slow but even worse. Just my experience, no data to back that up.
This number has always been 90% undercount according to Adam Back
I remember when the number said 15k and Adam said it's closer to 150k
Shouldn't nodes increase as fees go down on base layer? Also I've heard some things about Tor not being completely private with nodes being visible an law enforcement access.
Why? People run nodes to verify the chain. I think you're confusing nodes with miners.[1]
What we mean with "node" emerged over time. The whitepaper assumed that every node is mining. ↩