Trump injured but ‘fine’ after attempted assassination at rally, shooter and one attendee are dead
Stacker News discussion: #607431

What's sus here

  • The secret service didn’t secure a roof that was a 9-iron away with a clear shot? Really?
  • The two cuts on Trumps cheek with minimal red look awfully cinematic. What are the odds. This is the second biggest point imo
  • Apparently someone in the crowd died. But you can see the crowd in the video. They cheer after Trump raises his fist. Nobody looks to the right, no group of people form a circle around a victim
  • The biggest point: What would the assassin gain? If he fails, Trump gets to rightfully play victim and get sympathy votes. If he succeeds, Don Jr could win this election with sympathy votes in a landslide. The same point would only hold to a lower degree for an assassination attempt on Biden. The same point wouldn't hold on the assassination attempt on JFK since JFK had a very unique stance on Cuba that any replacement from his own party didn't share.
  • Trump is currently leading in the polls.
  • The press: All the pro Trump headlines were talking about how old Biden is. No pro major Trump headline was actually talking positively about Trump himself. That changes now

Conclusion

There isn't no concrete evidence for it being fake yet. Just saying it would fit neatly together
171 sats \ 5 replies \ @Fabs 14 Jul
What about the would-be assassin on the roof who got shot in the head by USSS? Ketchup too?
Get a grip, man.
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Have you only read the headline and looked at the first pic?
If you read the bullet points and the conclusion you'll see that this post is more nuanced than that
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45 sats \ 3 replies \ @Fabs 14 Jul
You're sounding the trumpets for nothing more than a radical that tried to assassinate someone off his personal list of "enemies", botched his shot, and died.
There isn't always some hidden cabal behind a happening, but conspiracy-fans don't wanna hear that.
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Yep. The only point that requires more explanation, afaic, is why that rooftop wasn't secured. Was that incompetence or part of a plot?
Btw, those are blood trickles on his cheek. It's exactly what would happen to someone who was shot in the ear and then laid face down on the ground.
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There isn't always some hidden cabal behind a happening, but conspiracy-fans don't wanna hear that.
Buddy, you're on SN. People here post screenshots of the matrix and believe that unironically
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18 sats \ 0 replies \ @Fabs 15 Jul
At least we're buddies. 🥺
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I agree, SS not securing the roof is sus.
But your "biggest point" assumes the would-be assassin had two brain cells to rub together to figure out the political ramifications of his actions.
More likely he was just a brainwashed leftard who "figured out" "gEe, I hAvE hOmE tUrF aDvAnTaGe, I wIlL oUtSmArT tHeM aLl WiTh My GrAnDpA's WaBbIt RiFlE".
Thuth be told, he got awfully close.
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The assassin was obvious hoping to succeed and kill Trump. In that circumstance he would have ensured Trump didn't get elected.
Non-trivial chance that another assassin succeeds before the election...
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I agree, especially since Trump will almost certainly continue doing events.
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64 sats \ 1 reply \ @jgbtc 14 Jul
The risk/reward is way to high to fake this. If the ruse was discovered he risks losing everything, just to gain higher polling numbers than he already has? That doesn't make any sense. He's already the front runner against the worst candidate in history.
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What is the risk tho?
I'd argue the risk is literally zero.
If someone "exposes" it, he'll just say they are lying to get attention. Or that the exposing was a ploy by democrats.
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I don't think so. It was real.
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23 sats \ 0 replies \ @398ja 14 Jul
Serious Q: Do you also believe that Sandyhook was fake?
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Stop
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I think it's unlikely, but if it's true, it's a genius move. The same thing happened in Brazil a few years ago with Bolsonaro.
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Seems unlikely. There's a photo of the bullet wizzing past Trump's head. And it must be live ammunition since a bystander died from it. You don't take that kind of a risk just for a photo opp
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Why would someone take a pic in right that moment?
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It's a Sony a9iii. It can shoot 120frame per second. Chances are the sound triggered the photo burst.
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Alright I am wrong here. It's a Sony A1, 30fps at 50mp.
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You think AP reporters have a sound-trigger on literally all the time? I have a hard time imagining it. I never have it on on my hobby photography
The bullet should also be already gone when the sound arrives. It's the first bullet on the photo
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Dude, the amount of photos reporters take is so much it's not surprising they got a photo of the bullet out of sheer luck.
Even in the film days a typical photographer covering an event would take hundreds of photos. With digital you can practically shoot full frame video constantly at low cost.
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photo journalist who can see the Pulitzer!
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I would start by asking these two what the fuck happened.
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13 sats \ 1 reply \ @Zk2u 14 Jul
Do you have the full video of them looking down range and beforehand?
21 sats \ 1 reply \ @OT 14 Jul
It could just be that having so many rallies made them a complacent. When the shots were fired the response was quick. The shooter would have known that it was a suicide mission. Could Trump act that well?
The scratches might be from when the SS piled on top of him.
Anyway, I'd hold back for now on these kind of theories.
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That's a good point
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thank you for doing some brainstorming on this, i likewise strongly considered the possibility of a staged assassination attempt.
hollywood 2.0 is quite good nowadays, yet even they suck and make mistakes/bloopers when asked to perform in real life.
another surprising observation is that people do not really care about the event, otherwise at my last night's dinner with the conservative boomers there would have been no discussions other than the supposed shooting.
i feel pretty bad for the public. they have been duped so many times, so hard, and for so long that to tell apart what is a lie and what is truth, let alone explain how, is now a gargantuan task. no one uses their brain anymore, it's problem-reaction-solutiom all the way.
focus on what u need to do in ur immediate life, get things done, prepare for the worst, hope for the best.
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I think it is important that this whole thing is questioned. That being said, I don't think this was faked. I think there are very evil people at play behind this (more than just the shooter), and I think this is likely a coup
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It's all too plain and obvious in sight to make a conspiracy theory out of it.
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It's all fake. Especially if it came through a screen. Wait, who's Trump?
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There is video of them carrying out the guy that was shot and an interview with a doctor who had blood all over his shirt that said he tried to give the guy CPR and he had be struck in the head and was bleeding profusely and there was brain matter splattered from the victim. Hell of an acting job by a lot of people.
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13 sats \ 0 replies \ @guts 14 Jul
Too risky to fake it. I would ask how he can have that incompetent secret service.
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Ronald Donald Few
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13 sats \ 1 reply \ @TomK 14 Jul
the mainstream now knows that it's all Trump's fault. it's really surprising that these degenerates come up with such filth.
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disgusting unconscionable
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We have already seen in the past how they liquidated a president in the land of wonders and freedoms, and we know perfectly well that they are the promoters of all wars, coups d'état and any failed state with valuable resources from which they can get something. So it is not surprising that something like this could happen, plus the democrats-socialists are scared and know that J. Biden cannot compete against D. Trump, it is not at all unreasonable to think that they want to remain in power by eliminating the competition. something like what was experienced in Ecuador recently when they assassinated the presidential candidate of the Right who sought to fight against the Narcos and gangs in the country.
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13 sats \ 0 replies \ @jeff 14 Jul
No way. None of this makes any sense to have faked.
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The assassination attempt looked real to me. The only question I have is were the secret service incompetent or were they deliberately stood down so the shooter could get off a few shots?
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Those were real blood marks on his cheeks and there is every chance that the gunshot just rubbed his ear. So, why make such claims that it was/might be a conspiracy! He's already leading and by every chance he's also going to be the next POTUS. He can't just plan an assassination of him and would not have directed that a bullet pass so close to him!
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Don't you think the small scratches with blood are too perfect?
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No, they weren't scratches. His ear might have got that wound while falling down on the stage.. but I insist they were real. I've watched the clips so many times. Also zooming in and out.
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Why did the bullet miss?

Because:
Nobody knows where to shoot him; he's clearly got no heart, his head obviously has no brain in it (and even if its in his arse its too fat to get a bullet through), and his dick (like his baby hands) is obviously too small to hit.
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Yes, I think it's a great play and someone innocent just passed away!
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Easy answer. No.
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I think it was staged and I think he might win cuz people think they need to feel bad for him
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Question everything
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Whether or not it has been true, the truth is that it has managed to attract attention and put it back on everyone's lips.
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Tulsi Gabbard talking to Laura Ingraham last December 2023 She predicted assasination attempt on DJT
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Shouldn't the guy be half deaf after getting a shot by his ear? 🤫
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No because the organ that does the hearing is inside the skull in humans and the ear part only functions like a satellite dish for audio waves
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Oh that is interesting. I was wondering if the sound would create some damage at that point or if it just becomes just a whistle. Thanks for your response
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