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That's crazy, why do we even give a $hit what happens there. Defend your country here on the southern border not 8000 miles away, where it doesn't matter. Makes me soo mad.

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Being from Texas the border is a disaster. What the US sends to Ukraine though is the expiring munitions that we did not have time to shoot on the range. By giving them to Ukraine we don't have to pay Raythone to disassemble and dispose of them. Not to mention we can test out different use cases and crush Russia which was thought to be a near-peer until the failed invasion. Now we know along with everyone else it is just a paper tiger.

Looking at the numbers we honestly save money doing this which is wild and we are spurring investment in US manufacturing because the defense industry crosses all sorts of manufacturing bases.

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You know the military world better than many of us. Is there an off-ramp to peace anywhere nearby or is it all escalation going forward?

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I think the escalation continues. These things tend to have great forward momentum. Plus around the country people are seeing troop and equipment movements - most recently a bunch of tanks and armored personnel carriers in New Orleans. Reminds me of a few months prior to the Iraq invasion in 2003, when I saw large numbers of tanks on trains heading into the Port of Oakland in California. Coincidence? I think not.

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We are sending stuff from the bone yards that we don't even use anymore. Its pretty cost-effective way to get ride of stuff our military wouldn't use. Almost all the munitions were/are expired that we send and while we do send some more advanced tech we are finding out what it can actually do on the battlefield without our soldiers being behind it.

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Ukraine has a manpower shortage. The average age of men fighting is 43 years

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Exactly, that's why the US needs a new supply of canon fodder (i.e., NATO brainwashed EU lapdogs) fighting for them. Why not outsourcing war too?

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Holy shit! Like when "advisors" got sent to Vietnam.

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Not quite, but headed in that direction...

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I personally think if anyone sends those "advisors" it will either be France (if Macron survives the snap elections that is) or Poland

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NATO countries have been advising and training Ukraine soldiers since 2014, that's one of the reasons why they are so successful against 18th century Russian tactics on the battlefield.

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Good point.

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The one thing I would say that could change it from those two is if Romania ends up getting bombed when Ukraine gets the F15s that will be stationed there for Ukraine

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There have been American volunteer boots on the ground since day one of full scale invasion. Now they will just allow commercialization of that, so not only volunteers, but also private business doing that.

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This will start as higher tech (Think engineers and techs for RTX Corp for air defense) and logistical.and infrastructure support - trucks and drivers.

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Taking the Patriot Systems as an easy example these Private companies would further save everyone money if they repaired the systems in Ukraine. Instead, we have to move them into NATO countries and then do the work so we would essentially be removing a logistics issue. Given the foreign brigade already there I am not sure how much this actually changes anything because Russia no matter what has shown to treat anyone was the US or Europe the same way. These companies fill a gap that doesn't really escalate much in the grand scheme of it all. Plus Russia already uses them so if someone in the US wants to fight and get paid for it hey its a free country let them government shouldn't tell you how to make your $$$

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Biden needs to move the eyes away from the recession at home. The best way to do that is to create a boogieman in another country to distract us.

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Does biden have an interest in these companies?
Or has be been bribed by them?

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this shit is bonkers

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