> I'm not claiming it is a scaling solution for Monero/Bitcoin though...that's the major difference.
I'm giving him an option if he values "instant" transactions more than self-custody (that doesn't make it scale Monero or Bitcoin. The only thing it's scaling is IOUs.)

Yes, maybe I should have expressed myself more accurately. You didn't say it is a scaling solution, but I noticed the same convenient approach of suggesting "just use e-cash" for something, that the coin hasn't solved natively.

Now yes, at least you mentioned, that it comes at the trade-off of self-custody, so I will give you that :D

> I don't have any problem with Bitcoiners who are clear that ecash/liquid/custodial lightning/etc aren't scaling solutions for Bitcoin. Calle the creator of Cashu is a great example of someone that is very clear about this.

That is also how I view it.

RedRadish688

I'm not claiming it is a scaling solution for Monero/Bitcoin though...that's the major difference. 
I'm giving him an *option* if he values "instant" transactions more than self-custody (that doesn't make it scale Monero or Bitcoin. The only thing it's scaling is IOUs.)

I don't have any problem with Bitcoiners who are clear that ecash/liquid/custodial lightning/etc aren't scaling solutions for Bitcoin. Calle the creator of Cashu is a great example of someone that is very clear about this.

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What are your thoughts on Bitcoin losing the Darknet

> What? Show me custodial solutions being pushed by the Monero community. There isn't any.

Also I am just seeing, didn't you push it here yourself?
https://stacker.news/items/574707/r/RedRadish688?commentId=577071

> Another option, you could use Monero-based ecash for places where you absolutely needed those "instant" transactions. Where finality was more important than self-custody
