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0 sats \ 35 replies \ @DarthCoin 28 Apr \ on: The Dilema of Mutiny Wallet with Fedimint lightning

i moved my balance from WoS to Mutiny due to interest.

And I supposed that you didn't run your own Mutiny server, as it should be. Moving from WoS to a default Mutiny demo (mutinywallet.com domain) is not too much different than still using WoS.

If that domain goes busted, your funds cannot be accessed anymore. Domains could very easily goes busted. Remember that. Not your domain = not your server.

https://m.stacker.news/28543

0 sats \ 4 replies \ @yonle OP 28 Apr

I am using the mutiny mobile app most of the time.

0 sats \ 3 replies \ @DarthCoin 28 Apr

And did you run your own Mutiny server?

0 sats \ 2 replies \ @yonle OP 28 Apr

I have no plan to do so yet.

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @DarthCoin 28 Apr

If you use it as a testing ground, is OK. But if you plan to use it for long term, you should seriously considering to run your own server. OTHERWISE IS NOT DIFFERENT THAN WALLET OS SATOSHI.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @yonle OP 28 Apr

For a long term, I may rather run a real LN node than this tbh. Considering the fact that i may still stuck with fedimint even after self hosting.

0 sats \ 29 replies \ @TonyGiorgio 28 Apr

Quit lying you stupid fuck.

You still have seed words and storage stored locally on the device
The app store apps still exist
The apps are still available on GitHub
It's on the start9 app store
The source code still exists
It's still self custody at the end of the day

You can sit there and continue lying, not knowing what the fuck you're talking about, or you can go do something productive for society.

I won't hold my breath on the latter.

100 sats \ 9 replies \ @javier 28 Apr

I don't want to agitate anybody, but would you please explain if this is possible:

Deploy your own server.
Restore the wallet you created with app.mutinywallet.com in your own server.
Restore the channels in your own server.

Have you tried it? Where is the documentation regarding this?

0 sats \ 7 replies \ @TonyGiorgio 28 Apr

Yes, just backup the state file and then import it when you set up your own server.

21 sats \ 6 replies \ @javier 28 Apr

Would you mind provide a link to the documentation? Also, have you thought about storing the channel backup in a cookie or in cloud storage just in case the user don't make a backup on time in case of your server suddenly failing?

0 sats \ 5 replies \ @TonyGiorgio 28 Apr

It's in your browsers storage, that's where the local backup comes from. It's also remotely stored as well, encrypted.

But when you're self hosting, it's your storage now. So it needs to fill it with your data which is what the state file is for.

0 sats \ 4 replies \ @javier 28 Apr

Thanks, back to my original question, what would be the procedure to restore the wallet and the channels that you created with app.mutinywallet.com in your own server?

100 sats \ 2 replies \ @TonyGiorgio 28 Apr

Settings -> emergency toolkit -> save state

Then setup your server and do the import state option.

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @javier 28 Apr

Thanks to both you and @yonle. Are you considering on adding the option to automatic save of this state to a configurable user cloud storage? Like Google Cloud, iCloud and NextCloud?

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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @yonle OP 28 Apr

just backup the state file and then import it when you set up your own server.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @yonle OP 28 Apr

I am not opening channel. I am only using fedimint. So self hosting won't make any difference.

0 sats \ 18 replies \ @DarthCoin 28 Apr freebie

Lying? Let me know what you gonna say to mutiny users when the domain mutinywallet.com (where they are running their instance) will get seized.

NOT YOUR DOMAIN = NOT YOUR SERVER