Einstein would probably be in an autism program today

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There are a few things I liked in this video that I would like to mention and ask you about:

1. Types of Thinkers

Dr. Temple Grandin mentions that there are three types of thinkers: visual, pattern and verbal (and of course mixtures of them).
My kind of mind, the object visualizer, will be good at mechanical devices because you can see how they work, art, photography, and animals. And the thing that we cannot do is abstract math. I can do arithmetic. I understand things like pi times the radius squared for sizing hydraulic cylinders and I then I see the hydraulic cylinders when I say that.
Now your visual-spatial thinker who thinks in patterns, they're going to be your IT people, your computer programmer, chemists, physicists, they calculate how to do things.
And then of course you have your verbal thinkers that think in words where they're much more linear in their thinking. Verbal thinkers are going to gravitate towards things like sales, where you have to be very good at talking. They'll gravitate towards writing, legal, teaching.
At first I thought I might be a visual thinker since I often have vivid imagination (or I just like to daydream a lot) but then she mentioned pattern thinkers are your IT people. So I guess I must be a pattern thinker then since I do enjoy programming and thinking about software patterns?
But as mentioned, there are mixtures and maybe I didn't pick what my thinking style would fit.
Anyway, I think it's more interesting than important to think about what kind of thinker you are and making oneself aware that there even are different types (maybe even more?).
In which type do you see yourself?

2. Standard Interview Process vs Backdoors

We need all the different kinds of minds. And I've talked to a lot of business leaders. And the first thing I tell business leaders is you've got to understand that people think differently and that they can work together in very complementary ways.
If you want to successfully hire neurodivergent people with autism, dyslexia, or ADHD who are going to get the jobs done for you, we need to get rid of the conventional interview process. They need to have opportunities to come in and show off the work and show the work to somebody who would appreciate it rather than just interviewing based on how well they talk. Because you can have a super-good computer person that's not very talkative, but that person may be your best programmer.
I really hope I never have to go through a standard interview process again even though I only had to code on a whiteboard once in my life so I think I got pretty lucky.
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3. Neurodivergence vs School System

I worked with skilled tradespeople that were definitely undiagnosed autism. They're retiring now because they're my age. And what concerns me is who's going to replace them. Because that kid that should be fixing elevators or inventing mechanical devices is playing video games in the basement instead of working for your company. There's some beneficial things you can learn from video games and that's true. But not playing them for ten hours a day.
When I was a young child, I'd spend hours tinkering with little parachutes and tinkering with little kites, getting them to work, trying lots of designs. I like to build things. Kids are not doing that. Kids today are not getting opportunities to learn from mistakes, and they're being so overprotected. They're not getting exposed to enough different things.
I've had educators say, what would I do to change the school system? I put all the hands-on classes back in. And that would give a lot of the kids like me more opportunities to find things that they would be good at. I got interested in the cattle industry because I was exposed to it as a teenager. If you are given enough opportunities to try a lot of things, then you'll tend to gravitate towards stuff that you're good at.
This had me thinking about this post from @Fabs and how I hated music and sports in school. Two things that turned out to not be so bad later in life.
I also would have loved to create more things in school. I always picked the classes where I could at least to some degree, like building water rockets or small planes out of wood and styropore.
But at the same time, I think every generation hated (public) school for their own reasons. Do you also think that?
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It is implied that verbal thinking is less valuable than other forms of thinking in Temple Grandin’s argument based on her examples (sales people, writers, lawyers, teachers) and how we socially/culturally value these professions.
  1. I think arguing that verbal thinking is inherently more linear devalues the thinking required to make any argument, arguments being the reason why we take any action at all in the world.
  2. If people do not have sufficient reason as to why they are doing something, actions cease to have meaning.
I think people grossly underestimate how important verbal thinking is - the process of imbuing physical reality with nonphysical, symbolic, conceptual meaning - whether secular or metaphysical. Why would we do anything at all above fulfilling our base physiological needs without the argument of why that thing is important? I would argue a lot people today use language in their minds to create and justify many actions - probably you need words to justify, argue or convince for someone else to perform an action (building things such as civilization, for example).
I wonder, perhaps bitterly, what happens when people grasp on to this notion that making the unseen or even seen world tangible via conceptualization (i.e. “verbal thinking”) is like, inferior to other things you could do with your life. Who makes the arguments about what is we do with our lives…?
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The one time I made it to SXSW Edu, Temple was the keynote speaker. Absolutely a fascinating person, and one of the best advocates for kids out there.
As to thinking style, I'm definitely a mix of visual and verbal (I absolutely talk through problems).
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Very nice. I would essentially agree with everything written. I am definitely not a verbal thinker. Teaching was one of my least favorite things at the university, I just wanted to do my math. And I have been terrible at interviews, too. On the other hand I never took them and rejections too personally, in the end every interview was a good experience I could learn from. I learned a lot about myself, my reactions, found my strengths.
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And the first thing I tell business leaders is you've got to understand that people think differently and that they can work together in very complementary ways.
I want to pick this one up later.
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code on a whiteboard
oh god why
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Looks like I'm of the verbal-type: I like writing and expressing myself well verbally. Cool.
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What's with all the freebie's you deadbeat?
Where are all these zaps going?
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What is a freebie? I've never understood this.
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278 sats \ 1 reply \ @ek OP 4 Apr
It's when you don't have enough sats in your custodial wallet1. Then your post is marked as freebie:
I didn't have 420 sats for ~mostly_harmless since I setup autowithdrawals such that any excess above 100 sats gets withdrawn to my LND node and you must have enabled free posts in your territory settings (checkbox below post cost). You can disable it, then everyone has to pay the full cost. It will show a QR code if they don't have enough sats in their custodial wallet.
Freebie items are only visible to people who have enabled greeter mode in their settings or if they got zapped. This is the help message for greeter mode:
UX around freebies with attached wallets is still WIP.
Maybe we should simply attempt to pay the full cost first before creating the item as a freebie. I would be happy to pay the ~mostly_harmless fee :)
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  1. but only if the fee is not increased for spam reasons. Then you can't post if you can't pay the fee.
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I would be happy to pay the ~mostly_harmless fee :)
I got you covered bro :)
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278 sats \ 1 reply \ @k00b 4 Apr
If you don't have sats in your wallet, you get to post for free in territories that allow it and comment for free. It's our onramp for non-bitcoiners or non-lightning bitcoiners or lazy bitcoiners.
Freebie posts have limited visibility until they're zapped by someone with non-zero trust.
@ek is exclusively using attached wallets (auto-withdrawals to zero and zaps/pays from an attached wallet). It's the closest thing we have to non-custodial at the moment as it's still custodial but only temporarily. We haven't adapted freebies to account for wallet attachments yet.
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70 sats \ 0 replies \ @ek OP 4 Apr
Unfortunately, I had to change the threshold to 100 sats. Some stackers DM'ed me on SN and I couldn't reply since these messages are considered withdrawals so it doesn't prompt NWC to pay the invoice, lol
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7 sats \ 1 reply \ @ek OP 4 Apr
I am testing the sovereign freebie experience with zaps via nostr-wallet-connect-lnd + autowithdrawals to LND.
I heard it's the future
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I am the future!
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