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I understand everyone's sentiment, but doesn't it seem weird that we're all playing this little fiat game, keeping score, and we are angry at those who want to maintain their privacy? We give it all up for a stupid game? What's next? Should we ask everyone how big their stash is? Can I see your cold card, please?
Fair point, siggy. I wish I could keep my total (all-time) amount stacked hidden, but reveal my place in the ranking.
I think if SN is going to do it as a competition with a leaderboard, it probably should have been an opt-in competition where competitors couldn't hide their identity.
I see a lot of people putting a lot of effort into great content. Under normal SN rules, you get zapped and that's great. Maybe you get a share of the reward pool and that's awesome.
But the MSM puts emphasis on how rankings aren't purely about who stacks most. So then, you are trying to figure out how the ranking works, to see if you can write stuff that will earn you more. But it's really hard to tell what one should do to be a top stacker when you don't know who the top stackers are.
This is part of why I made myself public. I figured other competitors should be able to see what I post, how often I comment and draw some conclusions from where that puts me rank-wise, rather than having to guess.
I've kept my total stacked hidden for as long as I remember that being an option, because I agree that privacy is important. But since I am legitimately trying to participate in MSM and claw my way to a higher prize, I think people should get to see it in the open.
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You raise all good points, starting with the fact that it should have been an opt in, although it wouldn't have been a real choice if rewards only went to participants. Short of that, there could have been some heads up about this plan. I already bored everyone with my feelings when this thing was announced, but now the peer pressure to sacrifice your privacy is difficult to take.
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Stay strong! Don't sacrifice it.
I'm curious how you would feel about it if numbers (total stacked, estimated reward) were hidden but names were not.
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I feel like it's the principle of the matter. I wouldn't like names exposed. As it is, the heuristics here expose privacy anyway. More accurately than chainalysis. I don't want to get all self righteous, but I played fiat games, score keeping and keeping up with the Joneses my whole life. I'm pretty old, and I'm sick of it. I will agree with you that content here has certainly improved, and that's a plus.
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It's really tricky: some of what SN is doing (at least as far as I get it) is using money to moderate a public forum.
This should be awesome. Skin in the game, less spam, value for value, markets...it all works together to incentive interesting interactions and content.
But in order to do that, some of the information has to be visible so we can all make choices about what to read.
This inevitably creates privacy issues and keeping up with the Joneses effects.
March has put a fine point on it with MSM. It was easier to ignore under normal SN rules. But also has incentivized some interesting content and interactions.
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All true. IMO, the tradeoffs have always been worth it, except for MSM. A line was crossed.
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Yeah, I prefer the old SN.
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I feel like making it explicit that I fully endorse people staying hidden, if that's what they want to do. Anything I say that seems to the contrary is just trash talk in the spirit of competition.
I agree that it kind of sucks that we can pretty accurately deduce how much people are making in rewards, when those people have expressed a desire to protect their privacy.
Maybe there could be a lower stakes contest with a leader board that is opt in and only a fraction of the rewards pool goes towards it.
I wish I could keep my total (all-time) amount stacked hidden, but reveal my place in the ranking.
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It’s curiosity. I am not angry at all, nor jealous or what. I respect everyone’s decision to hide their records, all fine with me. It would be great if they do though, so I know who is in the lead, but this is only because I am curious.
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I didn't want to stick this on you particularly. Sorry. I should have just commented rather than replied. I just don't like how this has been run, and particularly limiting rewards to 64 stackers.
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It's my gut feeling that there will be some changes.
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No worries! I understand your point :)
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You're absolutely correct. But, I don't think anyone's angry here. Instead we are just enjoying the every moment of suspense.
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Well, a few people have seemed angry, though not in this post. Don't get me wrong. I get it. I love games, and I'm competitive as hell. I try to keep that side of me in check😀
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Take their Anger as fuel for your passion and March ahead dear @siggy47. You're one of the best stackers we have here. You deserve it. All the very best for MSM.
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Thanks for the kind words, but I'm not angry at anybody. There are a bunch of good people on SN. That's why I'm here. This MSM just rubs me the wrong way.
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