When you post/comment on SN, do you think about how many sats you will earn?

8060 sats \ 116 comments \ @Scoresby 29 Jan meta

Unless you are a legend like @random_, @kr, or @DarthCoin, you probably aren't making more than a couple bucks here and there on SN. So how much do those sats affect what you post here?

Here for the community, not sats30.1%

I like sats, but I post what I want59.2%

Intentionally shape posts to earn sats7.8%

Stacking sats on SN is my full time gig2.9%

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905 sats \ 0 replies \ @KLT 29 Jan

For me, there’s a lot of nonsense on Reddit and I’ve been a lurker for awhile. I only recently decided to post because my wife is interested in discussing bitcoin, but not to the level that I’d be able to chat about it on here. I went down the rabbit hole of money and health and she took the health baton and is making sure we eat steaks and dodge seed oils. But yea, it’s cool to be able to have discussions with a like minded community and get a few sats here and there.

I feel like it’s just a positive feedback loop. We get zapped sats, we zap sats to others on SN and Nostr. It’s all positive and that’s something I’m all for putting out there.

Recently I zapped a few friends that never had bitcoin, about 12,000 sats each and they were all like WOW, this is amazing and are now going down the rabbit hole. One of them being my 7 year old niece.

981 sats \ 4 replies \ @Fabs 29 Jan

I'M HERE FOR A MULTITUDE OF REASONS!

ONE:

I THOROUGHLY ENJOY PARTAKING IN A BITCOIN-CENTERED, LIGHTNING-POWERED AND GROWING (HOPEFULLY, THERE'S ENOUGH LOVE AND SATS LEFT FOR A FEW MORE OF US) SOCIAL MEDIA / WILDLY BETTER REDDIT (IF TERRITORIES ARE HERE TO STAY, WHICH I HOPE).

TWO:

I'M ABSO-SATTY-LUTELY ENJOYING THE WAY ONE CAN ACTUALLY EARN SATOSHIS ON SN, AND THEN THERE'S THE REWARDS! OHH... THE REWARDS... 🥰🥰

THREE:

I ENJOY POSTING CONTENT HERE, FOR FROM WHAT I'VE NOTICED THAT THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS HATE / TOXICITY OR UNWANTED BEHAVIOUR IN GENERAL... AT LEAST I HAVEN'T COME ACROSS IT UNTIL NOW!

FOUR:

I'M IN ABSOLUTE ECSTASY THAT THE AFOREMENTIONED THREE POINTS CAN BE REACHED THROUGH USING ONE, I REPEAT ONE GENIUS APPLICATION!

I applaud @k00b @ekzyis @kr & more for their efforts and the masterpiece they already created ( and will make even better as time goes by!)

Your's truly,

Fabs.

PS: I hope I've come across clearly.

51 sats \ 3 replies \ @ek 30 Jan freebie

PS: I hope I've come across clearly.

I think you left some sats on the ground because of ALL CAPS

OR UNWANTED BEHAVIOUR IN GENERAL... AT LEAST I HAVEN'T COME ACROSS IT UNTIL NOW!

Well, I think you've come across some unwanted behaviour now, lol :)

41 sats \ 2 replies \ @Fabs 30 Jan

You might consider kissing my tasty, salty nuts.

10 sats \ 1 reply \ @ek 30 Jan

I actually like tasty, salty nuts. Caramel is also high on my list. Wasn't always the case though.

20 sats \ 0 replies \ @Fabs 30 Jan

Don't start giving me ideas, man. Wouldn't end well for both of us... 🥲

1339 sats \ 20 replies \ @Undisciplined 29 Jan

I chose "Here for the community, not sats", because that's the closest to what it feels like.

I do love how sats are used here, though, and I do pay attention to what kinds of things earn sats. However, I do that mostly because it's a gauge of what people here are interested in seeing and I don't want to spam content that only interests me.

1126 sats \ 2 replies \ @cryotosensei 29 Jan

Nope. But I confess that I used to focus on the trending Hot posts because I thought doing so would help me get back my sats’ worth.

Now that I have a bigger bag (and withdraw what I think is my fair share from here), I’m not calculative about “breaking even”. Sometimes I zap new Stackers’ posts or “obscure” posts to give others a lift up. It’s okay - I have enough haha

804 sats \ 1 reply \ @Undisciplined 29 Jan

Sometimes I zap new Stackers’ posts or “obscure” posts to give others a lift up.

And with that, you've ascended to the highest level of Stacker.

300 sats \ 0 replies \ @cryotosensei 30 Jan

I think there comes a point where I zap knowing that it will bring a smile to the other person’s face rather securing sats for my gratification. A lot of credit has to go towards your consistent 280 zaps haha

932 sats \ 16 replies \ @Scoresby OP 29 Jan

But if they were stacker points or six-gun rounds or some other gamified thing but not sats, would you feel differently?

181 sats \ 15 replies \ @Undisciplined 29 Jan freebie

I would, because those things are cheap talk. It's fundamentally important that we're using real fungible assets to signal value.

1433 sats \ 14 replies \ @Scoresby OP 29 Jan

This is the magic of SN!

I've been doing a little research into internet tipping outside the bitcoin world, and by far the most common response is that money would ruin the community, or the interaction or something.

And yet here I think the money is an integral part if the experience and it only makes it better. It doesn't ruin anything.

Is it just a bitcoiner thing or what?

864 sats \ 7 replies \ @Undisciplined 29 Jan

Is it just a bitcoiner thing or what?

Maybe, but I also just think people are really stupid about money and this is probably another thing they're wrong about.

I am interested in why it works so much better here than it even does on nostr. Is it because the posts cost money that we want to tip the creator?

982 sats \ 2 replies \ @Scoresby OP 29 Jan freebie

Nostr was slow to have a client with an integrated wallet, so there was a bit more friction than on here (even if it was just a little. On SN tipping is SO EASY!).

Also SN has the rewards function which is genius.

40 sats \ 1 reply \ @Undisciplined 29 Jan

Also SN has the rewards function which is genius.

Agreed. I can't believe I forgot to mention that.

137 sats \ 0 replies \ @ek 30 Jan

I can't believe I forgot to mention that.

Maybe because you're already spoiled by it :)

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465 sats \ 3 replies \ @ek 30 Jan

I am interested in why it works so much better here than it even does on nostr. Is it because the posts cost money that we want to tip the creator?

Shamelessly promoting my reply here

539 sats \ 2 replies \ @Undisciplined 30 Jan

It's a good reply. Go check it out, if you somehow made it here.

137 sats \ 1 reply \ @ek 30 Jan

It now even has the approval stamp from @Undisciplined on it :)

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815 sats \ 5 replies \ @ek 30 Jan freebie

I've been doing a little research into internet tipping outside the bitcoin world, and by far the most common response is that money would ruin the community, or the interaction or something.

And yet here I think the money is an integral part if the experience and it only makes it better. It doesn't ruin anything.

Is it just a bitcoiner thing or what?

I think it's also a micropayment and culture thing.

I think if people outside of bitcoin hear "internet tipping" they think about payments > 1 USD since tipping someone just a few cents is unheard of¹. "Tipping" might also imply that you should tip because else you're a bad person (related to peer pressure). I think the US has a strong tipping culture where this is the case but I am not from the US so I don't really know from first-hand experiences.

Tipping also implies that you already paid for something imo. So that's like a double negative: it implies you should pay for something and implies that you should pay even more afterwards. I think that's why people think it would ruin the community: Everyone would demand to get paid and more and not paying will be considered rude behavior².

But with micropayments, it doesn't matter so much that anyone would demand to get paid and everything is still basically free since just zapping 1 sat is also fine³.

It's the scale of micropayments by a lot of individuals that gives the ability to zap people the most value. Earning 1k sats on SN is not much in fiat terms, but knowing that enough people cared to give you 1k sats in total is the value. That is the true frontier.

This might even be considered rude, lol ↩
Which leads to paywalls which leads to walled gardens which is basically where the (rest of the) internet is currently degenerating into ↩
Another nice effect is that you can express yourself more precisely by the amount of sats you give. ↩

1165 sats \ 0 replies \ @Scoresby OP 30 Jan

Tipping is an awful term.

Micropayments is more accurate, but also kinda technical/financial services sounding. Not exactly fun.

Microtipping is claimed by the nano people (google it), and really isn't better than either of the above.

We do have the analogy of street musicians and busking. When you give them money it isn't usually called a tip. I don't think English has a word for this, actually. It sometimes gets called a donation--but that is awful. But the interaction is the closest I've found to what we are doing on here.

You hit on a lot of what I've been hearing, and I do think most people unfamiliar with zapping just fail to get the idea with the words we use.

I'm becoming a zapping maxi (not in the sense that I'm particularly good at it--im still too stingy, although I've definitely made more on SN since I've been become looser with that zap button--but in the sense that using money (bitcoin) to mediate online interactions is such a better way).

1585 sats \ 3 replies \ @Undisciplined 30 Jan

You're making me think of a concept in economics called "moral crowding out". There are many things in society that are governed by social sanction rather than monetary fines.

Occasionally, when people try to levy a fine to reduce an undesirable behavior the result is more of the behavior, because the social disincentive was "crowded out" by the monetary disincentive and the social disincentive was stronger. Basically, if you tell me being late to pick up my kid costs $5 I might be more willing to be late than when I just know that I'm inconveniencing you and I don't want to be rude.

I think that's sort of what people have in mind when they say things like "money would ruin the community, or the interaction or something". It also reminds me of how many people don't like the idea of paying kids to do chores or homework. They want the behavior to be more intrinsically motivated.

475 sats \ 2 replies \ @ek 30 Jan freebie

Basically, if you tell me being late to pick up my kid costs $5 I might be more willing to be late than when I just know that I'm inconveniencing you and I don't want to be rude.

Ohh, yes, this so much.

Since I don't care so much anymore about being everyone's darling (that was previously the case at least IRL), I actually started to think more in monetary terms.

For example, it used to scare me more to get caught and having to admit that I evaded the fare then actually paying the fine. But now, I am less scared since I would either just admit that I didn't buy a ticket (and get it over with) or even try to "talk" my way out of the situation by stalling and then running out of the train when it stops and the doors open since they probably don't care enough to run after me. And if they would run after me, I think I have the moral high ground again lol.

I think that's sort of what people have in mind when they say things like "money would ruin the community, or the interaction or something". It also reminds me of how many people don't like the idea of paying kids to do chores or homework. They want the behavior to be more intrinsically motivated.

Yeah, I think the fiat system really fucked our relationship with money.

"Money is the root of all evil", they say. But they don't know that the real quote was this:

For the love of money is the root of all evil

-- https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/money-root-of-evil/

758 sats \ 1 reply \ @Undisciplined 30 Jan

"Money is the root of all evil", they say. But they don't know that the real quote was this: For the love of money is the root of all evil

Is that what psychologists call "transference"? Maybe not, but what a great example of blame shifting. We collectively tuned out the part that carried some personal accountability and selectively heard the part that blamed an inanimate object.

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749 sats \ 13 replies \ @DarthCoin 29 Jan

I left SN just so others could make more sats than me on SN. I don't want their sats.

533 sats \ 1 reply \ @Nuttall 29 Jan

You can always donate. I've donated a couple of times. I've owned websites since 1997. I've earned less than $5 USD in the Fiat world. Here I'm actually doing better than stacking with my Fold card.

I love it.

Now also you can automatically get your sats sent to a lightning address, so you could recycle them to someone you really like and respect.

You can always change that, too.

10 sats \ 0 replies \ @Scoresby OP 29 Jan

Exactly! I would have chosen stacking on SN is my full time gig if I could have voted in my own poll.

488 sats \ 0 replies \ @Scoresby OP 29 Jan

People give sats for the value they appreciate. You could keep posting (I'd definitely be a reader) and give the sats away that you don't want.

31 sats \ 9 replies \ @Fabs 29 Jan

You are alive, after all...

It's said that you're a somewhat crazy- but knowledgeable Stackie... Is that true?

0 sats \ 8 replies \ @ek 30 Jan

Is that true?

No but don't trust, verify :)

5 sats \ 7 replies \ @Fabs 30 Jan

Will you help me?

Take me by my hand and guide the way.

0 sats \ 6 replies \ @ek 30 Jan

111 sats \ 5 replies \ @Fabs 30 Jan

Hahahaha! That's the perfect answer!

On a side note; I knew I'd do well by knocking the dude.

You're a funny fella.

0 sats \ 4 replies \ @ek 30 Jan

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0 sats \ 3 replies \ @Fabs 30 Jan

I know what you're referring to, offense taken, though, just to be safe. 🤫🥳

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713 sats \ 0 replies \ @grayruby 29 Jan

I have often thought about what a sat stacking optimization strategy for SN would look like. Maybe one day I will run a test through an alt account.

580 sats \ 3 replies \ @DEADBEEF 29 Jan

No, but also yes. I really love the SN community - it is much less toxic than Reddit or Lemmy. When I do post/comment I think more about the quality than I did on Reddit. Sats have value while karma does not so it is much more fun to see the Sats pile up.

480 sats \ 2 replies \ @Scoresby OP 29 Jan

I hear you.

Maybe the question I'm asking is:

Is it the community or the satoshis?

How important are the sats in this amazing thing called SN?

30 sats \ 0 replies \ @DEADBEEF 29 Jan

Definitely the community then. If the community here at SN was toxic I wouldn’t stick around even for Sats.

11 sats \ 0 replies \ @Nuttall 29 Jan

The sats are the community. It's the denominator not the numerator. It's a real scarce thing that must be worked for and it takes humans to provide that communication!

It's like buying drinks for all your buddies who will have sats later on instead of pissing your fiat reward away.

Fiat currency is so amazingly evil that we've forgotten how giving a tip (zap) here is really an amazing gift:

Micro payments
Settled on chain once you accumulate enough to warrant UTXO.
SO CHEAP NOW but not for long.

780 sats \ 2 replies \ @cleaningup12 29 Jan

The engagement here is literally amazing compared to nostr

225 sats \ 1 reply \ @DEADBEEF 29 Jan

Yeah. With Nostr I feel like I’m just posting my notes into a void. Here I actually get interaction and Sats 😁

30 sats \ 0 replies \ @cleaningup12 29 Jan

Exactement 💯

467 sats \ 5 replies \ @OT 29 Jan

I try not to. But I think the sats might influence my comments or zaps subconsciously

10 sats \ 4 replies \ @Scoresby OP 29 Jan

Would they influence you less if they were just points and not sats?

171 sats \ 3 replies \ @OT 29 Jan

Its probably tied into why I'm using SN. Its fun to zap and to get zapped.

Sometimes I feel like I've asked an interesting or unique question but it often goes unanswered. Someone might zap it early in hopes of getting more back if the post rises. So I'm not sure if that's a good incentive...

I've tried putting bounties but it doesn't always work (maybe not large enough).

Also I'm in a different time zone which I think effects engagement too.

51 sats \ 2 replies \ @Nuttall 29 Jan

I don't think bounties are necessary. The thing here that is more valuable than Bitcoin is information, feedback, links, receipts and perspectives. All of us have been trained to give this away for the algorithms to mine. Then we've been trained to beg for tips.

Here there is no begging. Everyone has paid to post. Everyone can signal via zaps that there is a like instead of a stupid ❤️. If you don't like a post you can pay to comment or choose to find another post and reward that.

10 sats \ 1 reply \ @OT 30 Jan

I agree with pointless "likes". On nostr I only zap

Sometimes a post will fall through the weeds. There are a lot more people on SN now. For example this post had some zaps but no comments:

#385287

There used to be an askSN sub but looks like its gone. Anyway, I would have loved to hear more from some of the tech wizards. It happens sometimes. I guess you might need to boost.

131 sats \ 0 replies \ @Nuttall 30 Jan

I responded to the post. I think if you find your post valuable you need to share it as you have. You can also very easily share it on your social media places and encourage others to view it and join Stacker to discuss this.

When I still had LinkedIn I managed to get a few new members but posting.

You can also expand on your original post by including the link in a new post with a different perspective or you can FIDO.

FIDO is an Army Term for Fuck It, Drive On. Meaning the work out damage is done and you can go to the next topic or assignment.

I've followed some successful people over the years and the message they repeat over and over again is, "Do more. Do often. Do enjoy yourself."

One of the best motivation guys I've followed and was recommended to me by a very successful scientist who I personally was mentored by is Brian Tracy.

Goals! : how to get everything you want-- faster than you ever thought possible

by Tracy, Brian

https://archive.org/details/goalshowtogeteve0000trac

95 sats \ 2 replies \ @thebitcoinbugle 30 Jan

Looks like I need to learn how to be more like the 1.7% stacking sats on here as their full time jobs

20 sats \ 1 reply \ @Scoresby OP 30 Jan

They are those people you hear about who are able to see the matrix for what it really is.

631 sats \ 0 replies \ @thebitcoinbugle 30 Jan

I'm going to need to take a heroic dose of mushrooms with Erik Cason to get on that level

658 sats \ 29 replies \ @kr 29 Jan

you probably aren't making more than a couple bucks here and there on SN

you might be surprised to see these numbers

767 sats \ 0 replies \ @grayruby 29 Jan

@Undisciplined and I are just wash trading our sats.

965 sats \ 23 replies \ @Scoresby OP 29 Jan

Indeed, but even a couple hundred thousand sats isn't much when you consider the time the top stackers put into SN.

(Unless you think bitcoin is going to sat cent parity, but in that case you would get more sats if you just put the time into fiat mining and buying bitcoin.)

I'm addicted to this site because even though I've been posting things on the internet for decades, this is the first time I've made any money at it. And even though it really isn't much when you consider it by the amount of work put in, it's kinda magical. It's a bit of a mystery to me.

1413 sats \ 20 replies \ @Nuttall 29 Jan

I definitely understand, but there are different types of work here:

Post
Respond
Respond early
Zap new (good content)
Discriminate. If my post sucks at least I paid for it and later on if I'm doing more interesting things it can be discovered or I just move on. Discriminate regarding my tastes and interests via zaps. I might like something no one else does but at least I let the author know someone zapped to appreciate. Also I can pay to comment and help that person know what I think to help him out.
Share on NOSTR or other social media - Automatically the share link has your user name and ID. If someone joins you get rewarded or at least you bring attention to a post you like. You may also share your own masterpiece.
Donate. You are seeding the program so that Stacker won't need venture capitol funding. The more you put in the more you get out. The goal is for Stacker to not need outside capital. If you are no longer getting the value for your labor then it is time to do something else.
Criticize - Someone might be a troll and you can be harsh, funny, encouraging or indifferent. At least the troll paid to troll you. Maybe you make a friend.
Scoop - so the troll is an asshole. Maybe he had some good ideas. Scoop his posts and look for any redeeming qualities. Maybe he had some good ideas or he's just a spook funded by MKULTRA. Who knows. If there is anything good, zap it. If it's all bad. Let it go.
Honesty - If you see something sketchy, point it out or ask questions. The better the quality of content here, the better your experience will be.

Looks up, convinced there are not too many mistakes and posts ☝️

10 sats \ 19 replies \ @Scoresby OP 29 Jan

People often compare SN to nostr and wonder why there's less zapping there. Your 10 points demonstrate all the jobs sats are doing here.

605 sats \ 0 replies \ @Nuttall 29 Jan

There is such thing as a vanity press. This has that element, too. There is also going into the casino with your money to the house and they give you tokens to play in the house. There is another aspect that as an investor you are allowed to sit at the table. Skin in the game.

It's brilliant.

I've been publishing since 1988 little zines and other nonsense. To me this is better than anything I could have dreamed up. The whole punk fanzine movement was DIY. Do it yourself. You paid to print and you sold zines to buy beer. Or you took the risk of printing zines at the office at night while no one was there.

True story.

My dad let me use the xerox machine to do my zine. His boss found out and was pissed. However, years later his boss actually did his own poetry book in a similar digest fashion and told my dad to give me a copy.

I actually planted a seed.

703 sats \ 17 replies \ @ek 30 Jan freebie

wonder why there's less zapping there

I have more reasons:

it's easier to zap on SN since you have a custodial wallet here
nostr has likes so people go down the path of less resistance to show "appreciation" by just liking and not zapping
SN has daily rewards which acts as an incentive for zapping. People are greedy and stingy by nature. SN works with human nature in this aspect while nostr doesn't. What do I get in return for zapping on nostr? A zap receipt that can be counterfeited?

The zap receipt is not a proof of payment, all it proves is that some nostr user fetched an invoice. The existence of the zap receipt implies the invoice as paid, but it could be a lie given a rogue implementation.

-- NIP-57, Appendix E: Zap Receipt Event

Posting on nostr has no fees¹, so there might be less quality content there

Assuming you're not limiting yourself to paid relays like nostr.wine but there, it's just a subscription and not pay per post so you can still post as much of anything as you want with no downsides after you paid the subscription. Or are there relays where you have to pay per published event? ↩

1067 sats \ 12 replies \ @Nuttall 30 Jan

I would like to see a nostr client that requires payment to post, has paid relays and makes zapping anyone easy. The client can be free open source software but it can encourage investing data via cultivated action.

10 sats \ 11 replies \ @Undisciplined 30 Jan

I've pitched this idea too. I'd also like people to be able to customize what it costs to reply to their notes.

1004 sats \ 10 replies \ @Nuttall 30 Jan

I think there is a way to post notes in nostr that you have to pay to read. Maybe I saw this somewhere else.

I think here on Stacker it works emotionally for me because I and everyone have to pay to post, like and respond. Also I don't see a shitty more rewards now and later cut down because....

The examples are Fold, Lolli, Fountain and Bitcoin Magazine paying 1000 of sats to get you hooked and then tapering down due to fiat inflation increasing expenses and while Bitcoin increases buying power but not that much.

Here seeing real price discovery. Once the power company, the network provider and expenses are covered it should profitable because it's its own complete product. We are being farmed, too and we like it.

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516 sats \ 3 replies \ @Scoresby OP 30 Jan

I hadn't thought about the zapping as the sole button on SN. I am definitely guilty of defaulting to shakas on nostr because, well, I can have the interaction and have my sats too.

490 sats \ 0 replies \ @Nuttall 30 Jan

I think the beauty here is that sats are freedom of speech and they are also protection of work. Metaphorically it is the 1st and 2nd amendment in action.

The choice of value to add is:

I like so I pay you in an instant. (you just made 0.00001 USD which in an hour would be $2.44 in sats which is a deflationary currency) Combine that with 20 others and that's $40 an hour. Not bad. Meaning that you potentially could be compensated for your time by continuing your positive behavior. It you grew your audience you would have more zaps per second. It's farming.
I like but I don't want to zap so I respond with good information that I have to pay to share!
I like and I can't zap, or comment but I can share somewhere else where my handle is recognized of I bring a new user.

Any of the above activities I can earn sats back from because I am actively gaming the playing field by positive participation and not driving focus to garbage.

I can do all three above.

All of this is net positive, volunteer communication.

10 sats \ 1 reply \ @ek 30 Jan

It's crazy how slight differences like this (no likes on SN, only sats as a signal) can have emergent properties.

I like nostr as a protocol though. I just don't like how it's currently mostly used. I really think nostr crippled itself by embracing twitter-like experiences too soon. It might need a few years to recover from that.

But I am starting to sound biased I guess. Can't help myself though. I work on SN for a reason lol

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Nuttall 30 Jan

Nostr is a monster. It's good because someone can get attention and earn a small amount of sats or at least use them in the wild. The next move, like bitcoin is to learn how things work and start to build or promote. If some person is a half decent writer she can come in with 1000 sats and apply nostr skills to Stacked and she can triple her stack in a few days.

She could read Writer's market from the library and apply that here, too.

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579 sats \ 0 replies \ @Undisciplined 29 Jan

you would get more sats if you just put the time into fiat mining and buying bitcoin

What if I'm on SN while I'm supposed to be working the fiat mines? Double dip!

50 sats \ 0 replies \ @gmd 30 Jan

I’m in the Philippines right now where some people make $6/day. For them they could make a living on here easily washing their posts through a LLM or even just copying posts from /r/bitcoin

579 sats \ 0 replies \ @Undisciplined 29 Jan

I'm the living embodiment of "You have to spend money to make money." That's hilarious.

585 sats \ 0 replies \ @Nuttall 29 Jan

Wow! I'd suggest at the donate page having the Stacker lightning address so people like @DarthCoin who don't want to take sats can send them to the Stacker News LN address via the automatic withdrawal.

Mechanically it should be easy to do unless the Stacker LN address is on the same LN node.

115 sats \ 0 replies \ @gmd 30 Jan

neat didn’t realize i was in the top 20 (numbering would be nice)!

try my best to spend more than I stack but rewards are very generous.

30 sats \ 0 replies \ @Fabs 29 Jan

Hey! I'm listed too!

328 sats \ 0 replies \ @globalmerchant 29 Jan

NOT here for the SATS

211 sats \ 0 replies \ @DudeJLebowski 30 Jan

The best comments are the ones that say "o sats".

100 sats \ 0 replies \ @kurszusz 30 Jan

I don't posting / commenting exclusively for zaps. I like posting. But, to be honest, it feels good if / when other stackers appreciate my content and zap me. I don't deny it, sometimes I think about my post / comment...maybe other stackers will like it, and zap me? But never to think about "how much zaps" I will earn :)

60 sats \ 0 replies \ @scottathan 29 Jan

I use the sats as motivation to produce content. Many of the posts I make here, such as my review of "Good versus Bad Deflation", were articles I had intended to write anyway, but the financial incentive pushed me to consider more fully how to communicate with the people here on SN and give you all something valuable. The sats force you to consider how what you are writing will benefit others.

60 sats \ 0 replies \ @Atreus 30 Jan

Bitcoin is the first money that actually fulfills the dicta “Time is money.”

“Guys, I'm just here to have a good time, I don't really care about stacking...” If a Bitcoiner said this, we should toss him out on his ass 👉

It's value-for-value around here. Value = Time = Sats.

You should absolutely shape your posts to be time-valuable, which we lowly mortals measure with the thing we call “sats.”

That's my 1 sat, anyway. Stack away.

60 sats \ 0 replies \ @guts 30 Jan freebie

SN feels like what Reddit and Digg were back in the day with genuine conversations and more truly speaking with a human. On the contrast current Reddit is full of astroturfing and psyops and programmed on purpose to brain wash you. The use of sats is the cherry on top.

30 sats \ 0 replies \ @globalmerchant 29 Jan

I'm 100% B2B focused on my customers hopefully little by little using Lightning for smaller daily wholesale orders.

40 sats \ 1 reply \ @haimot 30 Jan

I'm here for the community but I'm not gonna lie sats give me some extra dopamin hit

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Scoresby OP 30 Jan

Yeah, I don't exactly have a way to measure it, but I'm pretty sure a one sat zap is worth like 10 or 20 likes elsewhere on the internet.

40 sats \ 1 reply \ @jasonb 30 Jan

I'm all about the community and the sats, but frankly, I just want to know how to keep my cowboy hat. It seems to come and go with no real rhyme or reason. Yeah, I'm here for the news, stay for the sats, but live for the hats.

21 sats \ 0 replies \ @Scoresby OP 30 Jan

here for the news, stay for the SATs, but live for the hats.

That's pretty good! Keep your hat by zapping a good amount every day.

50 sats \ 0 replies \ @Natalia 30 Jan

do you think about how many sats you will earn?

no, I don't expect much - posting here is more like documenting POW, stacking skills and fun, sats are like a bonus.

30 sats \ 1 reply \ @smuglydawg 30 Jan

Wait… we can earn more satoshi if we make better comments and better posts?

20 sats \ 0 replies \ @ek 1 Feb freebie

Yes. You'll get more zapped by others which means you'll additionally get more from the daily reward pool.

30 sats \ 0 replies \ @Undergotten 29 Jan

Everything I earn here will just end up back here, anyway, so sats are the same as reddit Karma in this space. But the real value they carry makes this feel more important to me, so that's probably why I keep coming back.

30 sats \ 0 replies \ @fm 29 Jan

https://m.stacker.news/14235

30 sats \ 0 replies \ @Malachi17 29 Jan

No, it's just a bonus.

30 sats \ 0 replies \ @03479d0ee6 29 Jan

For me I just like to reply on topics that I like and have some value to give, the sats are just a nice feat to know that your contribution was important and that you are helping the community. The format is different but I feel here sats have a real positive influence and incentives curating the information unlike nostr.

30 sats \ 1 reply \ @cryptofolyo 30 Jan

I think the older the stacker is here the bigger his reputation

30 sats \ 0 replies \ @cryptofolyo 30 Jan

the more he/she post relevant content the higher the reputation

30 sats \ 0 replies \ @TNStacker 30 Jan

Sometimes

30 sats \ 0 replies \ @nullama 30 Jan

Not really, but it makes me think a bit more about the quality of the content I should be posting.

30 sats \ 0 replies \ @sasasuina 30 Jan

I always zap the post before commenting.

20 sats \ 0 replies \ @orangecrush 29 Jan

I prefer conversations to sats. When Stacker goes fully onto the Nostr protocol (🙏), then I can just follow and tag others to continue the conversation.

20 sats \ 0 replies \ @cryotosensei 29 Jan

I like sats, but I post what I want.

To this end, I was very active in the Japan territory when it was still around. I had written lots of cultural articles about Japan for a previous writing gig. That site has since closed down, so I felt motivated to type all these articles on SN and recycle the papers as a form of decluttering haha

20 sats \ 0 replies \ @Nuttall 29 Jan

One more thing to think about here at Stacker verses NOSTR.

NOSTR is open and closed. If you don't have anything at all regarding Bitcoin you can get set up there and start to work for zaps by positively reinforcing others with relative information.

Eventually you can join a Stacker civilization with hundreds of sats and start your journey to more focused V4V posting.

Here Stacker might also sponsor a NOSTR personality with a new membership by having a territory of non Bitcoin people who need to be Bitcoin people.

Seed and seed and seed.

Yes, I want a job working for Stacker. So I'm doing it! 😂

45 sats \ 0 replies \ @justanumber 30 Jan freebie

I will be posting what I want and zapping content I like, find useful and/or want to see more of. But I think there is a system to be gamed here and suspect there is behaviour that ends up lifting up certain posts or certain user's posts, which is reminiscent of big tech social media and, in all honesty, puts me off investing my time in posting. For example, being rewarded for zapping top posts and top comments early will inevitably lead to people trying to second guess which those posts/comment might be. This could leave decent content sitting in the doldrums with not as many zaps because it's predicted as not being worthy or "top". I very strongly suspect that is what is happening. I see people saying that if someone doesn't get zaps it's because it's not content people are interested in and I'm sure there's an element of that but I think there are other things at play here.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Bell_curve 22 Jul

I have zero expectations

I posted Biden dropped out today on stacker saloon before TomK posted on news

I admit I was being lazy by posting on saloon rather than news but I expected more than 21 sats

People who say good morning get 100 or more

I'M HERE FOR A MULTITUDE OF REASONS!

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