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99 sats \ 5 replies \ @TonyGiorgio 24 Jan \ on: The Past, Present, and Future of Offline Payments bitcoin

static invoices, onion messages, blinded routes, trampoline payments and eventually PTLC

So like never.

I've moved on to federated lightning addresses that can allow the user to sweep the funds to their self custodial LN channel when they come back online.

89 sats \ 4 replies \ @roy OP 24 Jan

Nah. Most implementations already support most of these. PTLCs will take longer, but there are ways to mitigate proof of payments.

47 sats \ 3 replies \ @TonyGiorgio 24 Jan

When protocol features need network wide support, it turns into a forever waiting game. It does not matter if other implementations have this support when they're at most 5% of the nodes on the network. Until you can reliably route onion messages and have senders speak onion messages/async, it won't happen.

435 sats \ 2 replies \ @roy OP 24 Jan

But that's not the case here. You can easily run lndk to get onion messages. We're still early, and you think you can influence the adoption, you're wrong.

31 sats \ 1 reply \ @TonyGiorgio 24 Jan

We've both given up on LND. Ofc I still applaud the efforts and a move towards something better, I'm just pessimistic and have grown tired of asking.

You can easily run lndk to get onion messages

I'll believe it when I see it more. Are you running it and do you know of any others running it in production currently?

377 sats \ 0 replies \ @roy OP 24 Jan

Still in our staging, soon hopefully