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At a significant cost

Correct, everything has a cost! The value provided by it is invaluable for its users. We do learn, just need time

STX is an actual scam. Odell explained it over on NOSTR: https://primal.net/e/note18nnp5rkvx2t6k48g6re78d8sac6wfwksyc4qxzlc8cz9m6a8djhsd8agw7 BitVM on the other hand, would have been a much better example.

Thanks for mentioning BitVM, totally missed!

Interesting point you touch with lnsymmetry, not sure if I'm missing some reference... can you point me to the right material to look?

Whoohoo I get to spam links now!

https://bitcoinops.org/en/topics/eltoo/

https://delvingbitcoin.org/t/ln-symmetry-project-recap/359

"CTV(emulation) ended up being useful! It removed the necessity of round-trips from the payment protocol, allowing for 'fast forwards' that are extremely simple, and would likely reduce payment times if widely adopted."

Forked from CLN eltoo implementation https://github.com/instagibbs/lightning/tree/eltoo_support

Moonsettler previously was working on a CTV activation client, is now supporting LNHance which is 3 BIPs (CTV+CSFS+internal key) https://nitter.net/4moonsettler/status/1744073318406205802

LnHance discussion thread https://delvingbitcoin.org/t/lnhance-bips-and-implementation/376/8

"it won’t do everything APO can, and that’s on purpose. just the most important things that are highly desired."

A comparison of APO vs CTV+CSFS https://njump.me/nevent1qqs0f89vu4pqjhgtvth33g47k7l8mg77nz5dey5chrrvs00hpr94spcpvemhxue69uhkv6tvw3jhytnwdaehgu3wwa5kuef0dec82c33wdj8suttx5mkw6mkd3cngdr8xp3nxenew4unquejwq68vanwd3jrjvrwdvunsmnxxfukke3kw3jrsemyx4eksmfed4mng0mzwfhkzerrv9ehg0t5wf6k2qguwaehxw309ahx7um5wghxy6t5vdhkjmn9wgh8xmmrd9skcqg5waehxw309ahx7um5wghx77r5wghxgetktehkd4

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much useful! also thanks for writing about it

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