21 sats \ 5 replies \ @kepford OP 22 Dec 2023 \ parent \ on: Why we no longer sell phones with GrapheneOS – Private Phone Shop privacy
Honestly this whole thing is ridiculous. Your OS is OSS you have no standing to say someone is profiting off your work as a negative. They are giving their work away.
I shouldn't be surprised but people acting like it is easy to install Graphene are out of touch with the average person and their time commitments. Sure, its easy for someone with some tech savy and time. For the average person it is not. There are tradeoffs with buying a preflashed phone but these people are likely coming from Google phones.
The Graphene folks come off as cry babies to me. Its clear that they need some help with communication. Many see their behavior and will say nope. Never gonna trust their code.
In regards to installing Graphene, it's far easier than Calyx or any other custom OS (this comes from someone who's installed both) since it's the only project with a web-based installer.
I've seen posts on Nostr of people installing GrapheneOS on a Pixel 8/8 Pro from an older Pixel or another Android phone, you can't say that for any other OS derivative.
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It has gotten much better. Agree with you on that. Still, its a hurdle many will never even try to overcome. People like us are the exception.
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I even offer to do it for friends and family and so far no one is interested. Being able to buy a phone that is set up out of to box ready to go is not an unreasonable thing. Few people even install an OS on a computer.
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I'd say Graphene itself should take the Calyx approach, while encouraging usage of Auditor to ensure there was no tampering (at least at the software level).
But alas, it's easier for Micay to burn bridges than it is to build them.
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Writing code and building community are different skills
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