Bit of a rambling post for a fairly weak argument. The Graphene devs are right to call out people selling devices which are end of life or imminently about to be -- these devices won't receive security updates from AOSP or Graphene.

More generally they're correct to call out sellers of pre-flashed devices, as the integrity can never be as trusted.

The addendum about whether or not Daniel Micay is still involved in the project is just idle speculation and unrelated to their core grievance. Had Daniel not called them out, they would have no issue with his involvement either way.

imo, selling GrapheneOS is a scam. it's incredibly easy to install.

anybody who expects to benefit from GrapheneOS without having the bare-minimum ability to install GrapheneOS is (in my humble-as-can-be opinion) being silly.

The Graphene project really seems to try to make enemies out of allies. Its sad.

People who use out of service devices miss the part that a smartphone do not need only a rom aka operating system but also drivers. The modem is a not flashable and if it do not receive updates anymore its potentially vulnerable for exploits. Those devices should NOT be used as an online devices! Installing GrapheneOS on such devices give the falls believe that they are secure but thats NOT the case! Don‘t put the blame on GrapheneOS - Its Goole police that do not support updates over a bigger period. Google promises to support their newest devices for 8 years, so think about spending some money for a new device and donate to GrapheneOS for their great work all of us benefit from.

I very much dislike Micay, and the fact his bullshit (including essentially lying about resigning, as highlighted by the sole valid point PPS made about that) heavily affects Graphene and its standing with those who want a private Android OS. This is one of the few times Graphene had a legitimate right to go on the attack.

Laser in disbelief.

Thanks for sharing