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Saddle on up to a stool and spill the beans about your day, fire away with them questions, or let loose and give us the lowdown on your wild and woolly life. We're all ears, so don't hold back!
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@koob question regarding territory renewal. When the bill comes due, does the territory get removed until renewed or will territory founders have the option to renew it first? Will they only be presented with a pay monthly option if that's what they first selected or would they have the ability to pay for the other options of time frames?
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I have the place to myself today. It's cold and raining outside, yet I'm indoors beside the heater with coffee in hand. I'm syncing Core for the hundredth time while listening to RHR.
Aaaaah. This is peak comfy, boys. I wish you all a good weekend.
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Good morning stackers, hope you all are having a fantastic day. My day will be a bit busy, I have to run around for my nephews concert.
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@k00b Stackers have to opt in to withdrawal invoice being auto-deleted, right? It looks like mine are being deleted despite me not having opted in. I can open a bug in GitHub if appropriate, lmk.
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Yes, must be a bug in the query
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Aaaand fixed. Talk about quick turnaround!
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152 sats \ 2 replies \ @ek 9 Dec 2023
@k00b taking away some quick wins from me, lol :)
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386 sats \ 1 reply \ @k00b 9 Dec 2023
There are plenty left cowboy.
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but we have bigger pictures in mind :) so it always feels like "running away from the one thing i am actually supposed to do", lol
like i would do everything now except that one thing i should be actually doing, lol
but i did start to work on it :) and i might indeed need some help, did not expect to run into the problems i am running, lol ...
or maybe not, maybe i just need a few hours of good sleep :)
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Or it's just a bug when displaying them because the query looks solid
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Yea I think that's right. I can actually click into the invoice and view it, despite having it say it's deleted from the wallet history page.
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Shame on you stackers! Only fucking 2 views? Not even on zap.stream? @Car you must do a better work promoting SNL, these stackers have no idea what they are missing!
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need to setup all that restream stuff this weekend
pods in general are slow and steady I plan on doing SNL for at least a decade, most important is consistency
everything else will come with time, low time pref is everything when creating anything creative
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i'm one of them lol. youtube doesn't notify.
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stop using mobile for everything , man!
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125 sats \ 2 replies \ @ek 9 Dec 2023
i was in fuckin' bed, man !
i wanted to watch the stream and then, when it's over, slowly fade into dreams ...
but i feel asleep before it started, lol !
i also believe my time zone is 1 hour after yours so yeah, a reason why i should be allowed to be in bed when the stream starts :)
going to watch the recording now and then hopefully return to where i came from ...
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i was in fuckin' bed, man !
Ok make sense then. sorry, is understandable.
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lol :)
you know it was just a joke, right? :)
like this SN here, sometimes feels like one big fuckin' joke
but in a good way :)
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I received my @goodbeans coffee order today.
Paid for in Bitcoin via lightning.
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Looks good I feel like having some coffee now
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are these bots FUCKING MORONS? @lpop4254 and @Roll
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And why does Roll get so many freebie posts?
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Thanks for the information
Moron is a term once used in psychology and psychiatry to denote mild intellectual disability. The term was closely tied with the American eugenics movement. Once the term became popularized, it fell out of use by the psychological community, as it was used more commonly as an insult than as a psychological term. It is similar to imbecile and idiot.
"Moron" was coined in 1910 by psychologist Henry H. Goddard[4] from the Ancient Greek word μωρός (moros), which meant "dull"[5] and used to describe a person with a mental age in adulthood of between 7 and 10 on the Binet scale. It was once applied to people with an intelligence quotient (IQ) of 51–70, being superior in one degree to "imbecile" (IQ of 26–50) and superior in two degrees to "idiot" (IQ of 0–25). The word moron, along with others including "idiotic", "imbecilic", "stupid", and "feeble-minded", was formerly considered a valid descriptor in the psychological community, but it is now deprecated in use by psychologists.
In the obsolete medical classification (ICD-9, 1977), morons and feeble-minded persons were said to have "mild mental retardation", "mild mental subnormality" or "high-grade defect" with IQ in the range 50–70.
Following opposition to Goddard's attempts to popularize his ideas, Goddard recanted his earlier assertions about the moron: "It may still be objected that moron parents are likely to have imbecile or idiot children. There is not much evidence that this is the case. The danger is probably negligible."
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So you are a fucking bot. Thanks for letting me know. Blocked and flagged from now.
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Youpi Yop la boom
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Lol so funny but also so true
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meme game becoming strong with this one
but i must admit, i did not understand previous meme
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The fact that the supply of USD is shrinking, yet the price of BTC is rising, indicates that quantity of resources in the US economy is shrinking. Or, you could think of it as the US economic output decreasing.
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and yet all the people thinking about fiat are fucking morons....
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If their goal is to accumulate more fiat, then, yes, they're ngmi.
Nevertheless, the fiat price of BTC has some limited use, but only when coupled with other data and proper economic theory (which most fiatists don't have).
What a fucking disaster.
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show your self man, stop hiding in anon
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Can I get a hazmat hat if I up/down zap enough posts in user-created subs?
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I'll add it to The List™️
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lmao, haters gonna hate :)
haters gonna not have low time preference ?
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Yeah letting any pervert make an anime themed shit fetish sub is definitely low time preference, fucking moron
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I might still be a fuckin moron but I strongly believe this to be the case in the grand scheme of things, yes :)
My fellow anon friend :)
Oh no, "did I" "accidentally" reveal my identity?
Oh well, guess can't change this now, lol :) much fun around here indeed
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what is this anon business..i must have missed the memo...
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Must have missed the "memo", yes, lol
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Is getalby down?
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will be kicking off stacker news live at 4pm (cst) today, will be answering any questions on the live-stream
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If you do not stream it on zap.stream I will never watch it again... Really embarrassing that SNL is not streamed on zap.stream
FUCK YOUTUBE!
how louder I could say no more?
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1897 sats \ 8 replies \ @Car 8 Dec 2023
lol, how many beers you had? 🤣
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LOL I was the only one on zap.stream? WTF stackers?
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fuck now I realized that I zap too little, was on the last minutes of the stream and couldn't type so fast
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i literally feel asleep waiting for the stream to start
then i woke up, looking at the clock and thinking "fuck, must have missed it"
still trying to open the stream ASAP. seeing i only missed 33 minutes. then this.
then i tried to get out of bed ASAP, trying to watch the stream on my desktop PC
i literally only heard @k00b say "zap" and then it was over lol :)
sometimes, life is so lol, you start questioning a lot of things, hahaha
and what is the point of this story you might ask?
guess i should have tried out zap.stream on my phone in bed first :) well, next time!
100x times you can handle! Nobody can drink as much Darth can handle... And I can still post on SN.
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I will still tune in in the future but for some reason, I don't think this is unintentional by YT ... especially when looking at not so recent history regarding YT ...
I think we're entering browsers wars 2.0 or something, idk, need to read up on the history of browser companies trying to use their market share as some sort of nudge... Towards what exactly? Not sure if we want to see, lol :)
oh, btw, will you not forget to enable the banner so i don't miss it by accident? :)
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PSA: Zapping is win-win-win. Stop being so stingy.
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very nice.... @k00b is playing anon now, testing all subs?
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Lol the ghost of nemo is haunting us I think
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nemo is not such an asshole... somebody else
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i don't think you really know enough about @nemo to make such assumptions :)
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I came from the future...
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lmao lmao, is this your best response? :)
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sorry I cannot speak with virtual identities... like anons. For me doesn't exist.
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i wonder if someone ever teached @DarthCoin a lesson 🤔
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all anons can suck my cyborg dick... they do not exist
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2143 sats \ 1 reply \ @k00b 8 Dec 2023
When I zap a lot:
  1. stacker sharing a discussion/link/question is known for thoughtfully participating in the comments of their posts
  2. news/findings/interestingness that I personally wouldn't want to miss
  3. a very high quality piece of original long form content
We are nowhere near the last halving. Any idea what will happen after the 2136 halving?
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after the 2136 halving
We will be all dead by then,... why do you care? Live your bitcoin life today at maximum.
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2140: reward will be 0 BTC: --> return 0;
CAmount GetBlockSubsidy(int nHeight, const Consensus::Params& consensusParams) { int halvings = nHeight / consensusParams.nSubsidyHalvingInterval; // Force block reward to zero when right shift is undefined. if (halvings >= 64) return 0; CAmount nSubsidy = 50 * COIN; // Subsidy is cut in half every 210,000 blocks which will occur approximately every 4 years. nSubsidy >>= halvings; return nSubsidy; }
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Thinking out loud.
How does the daily rewards work on content that gets an upvote days after first being posted? For example in territorials which may or may not get new submissions that often so "old" content stays visible longer
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@ekzyis is there a difference between posting a image link from postimg or uploading it from my drive to SN repository?
Are we loading some SN server with those "garbage" images over and over? I am asking just to use images in a more proper way.... I don't want to push too much SN servers.
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125 sats \ 5 replies \ @ek 8 Dec 2023
is there a difference between posting a image link from postimg or uploading it from my drive to SN repository? Are we loading some SN server with those "garbage" images over and over?
the difference is you're uploading it to an AWS server of ours, yes.
I am asking just to use images in a more proper way.... I don't want to push too much SN servers.
i would much rather prefer you push your "garbage" to our server(s) so we can hold on to them as long as possible so the theory behind the evergreen content on SN might actually work out one day :)
it's 2023, storage is not the problem.
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it's 2023, storage is not the problem.
roger that! I just wanted to be sure.
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still have to look at median image fees so we can fine tune the moment we're going to hit people with fees (/cc @Natalia)
<insert make them pay meme>
:)
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<insert make them pay meme>
I'm already paying for it hhaha, and still feel like a bit hassle uploading photos somehow, loading took time and would be nice if I could just drop them and upload:)
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crazy idea... why not charge stackers that are posting a direct upload image instead of a 3rd party hosting?
just 1 sat for the beginning?
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with fees, i do mean only direct upload image
why not
UX reasons :)
"i think" there was a lot of discussion regarding this on Github "somewhere" ... you might find it if you're looking for it :)
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I tend to upload images on image hosting site when I'm on my laptop. I only use the upload feature when I'm on my phone. I know this doesn't answer your question but I just thought I should share how I use the upload feature.
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yeah make sense to upload directly when you do not have access to your "memes stash". Just keep in mind to remove the exif info if you post an image took with your phone. Just in case...
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yes, makes sense, don't trust us, but if you want to be lazy sometimes, you can review this code to make sure we're doing stripping of EXIF data right
i might actually be generous towards anyone who takes a look and proofs it :)
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I was just joking, you know that.
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i do :)
but sometimes, i think i know things, and then i end up not actually knowing them, sooo ... not sure how to deal with this sometimes, guess it's just part of the human experience, lol :)
did i sound like i do not know that? lol
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Day 237 of snailposting everyday 'til BTC hits $100k.
...and 37 push-up(s).
__@_'-'
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There you are :), another push-up.
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Hello __@_'-' It's good to have you.
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Horse Stance: 2 minutes
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I lol'd. Good one
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Finally Friday!!! The weekend is one day away, I hope you've had a wonderful week and that this weekend be glorious for you and your loved ones, let's do this final week's push and finish strong, we've got this guys, may you have an stupendous day filled with success, love and profit. You're awesome and what you do is important just like you, never forget it, you are worthy and you are appreciated. Thank you for being, be well and stay frosty my good loved friend.
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You knooooow it, have a great one buddy!!!
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Who else would want to use a nostalgic internet browser? That renders all website CSS like 20 years ago? Pixelated images, no more sans fonts. Function over form.

Reason I ask: using the Uruguayan gov and accounting systems is like going back to the internet 20 years ago.
Terrible UX, nothing communicates with each other and countless steps to do what you want to do. It's actually kind of refreshing and nostalgic how inefficient it all is 🤣
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why do you need to deal with their accounting system?
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Let the weekend come! What a great bitcoin week! I have a new record of sats in cold storage, learned a ton here, and sent some sats to a fruit vendor in Elsalvador!
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All statutes, codes, rules, regulations, and so-called "laws" are business contracts written by your government that require your fully informed consent. Any state document that requires a signature is a consent contract. If you do not consent to a legal contract, it does not apply to you. Any attempt to make you consent against your will is "coercion." Any threat to make you "sign" a contract to obtain your property is "coercion" for the purpose of "extortion" whether or not that property, like money, is obtained. An "artificial person" is a fictitious creation of the State and is therefore controlled by the State. The legal "natural person" is the NAME owned by the government, employee, servant, franchise, debtor, liability guarantee, obliged to comply with the government statutes (acts, bills, regulations and legislative instruments), which are the "terms and conditions" of that "state". Joining: When a man or woman "acts" in the "role" of an "artificial person" they are an "accommodating party" that invokes "joining" to that "artificial person". They are "acting" in a fictitious person. Their jurisdiction changes to that of an "artificial person" and therefore they are subject to the Statutes that control "artificial persons".
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fun read from last night
the world you live in operates like this: "we've tricked you into contracting with us. You can leave fairly easily and anytime you want. But look at all the scary things in the world (that we create). Don't you want protection? Aren't you scared? You should be. You consent to receive our help under no duress by our direct hands. That makes you willingly contracted. You contract with us and we represent the devil. We are the agent of the devil. Thus via us, you are contracted with the devil. The less you are fully aware of all this, the better. We will only let you partially know, that way we can defend ourselves by saying we were transparent and that you did have some knowledge of what was going on. We are chaos. Chaos is necessary as it balances and motivates the world. We want to eat you and we believe eventually not only will we be able to, but you will beg us to do so. From chaos comes order... our order that we place and define that you will beg to accept.”
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you are lifting the veil
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"Legal" is whatever the state chooses not to punish you for. All the rest of that stuff is fictional niceties. The state decides whether or not you consented and their definition of consent may not conform to reality.
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Wich one, the state or the State? Those are two very different creatures. eg The state of Texas is a republic, The Republic of Texas; whereas The State of Texas is a corporation, located in U.S., located in D.C. The first one has nationals, the second has citizens.
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"The State" is any organization claiming and exercising a monopoly on initiatory violence over a given territory. All those other words are nice sounding concepts that they choose whether of not to honor.
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the US only claims DC and the territories. Why the hell are all the other americans obeying then? ;) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNF2ni2Mz3k
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The US claims much more than that. You're interpreting the situation too legalistically. People in power don't care about what's written where, unless they think ignoring it is impractical.
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They make you think they are in power, in fact they are in office. It's the "reverse trust scam", fear is the mind killer They are our little bitc..., khm servats And all they do is obeying peoples requests, nobody is holding a gun to your head when you identify as citizen
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Good luck with the whole "you work for me" thing if you are ever at cross purposes with the regime. It's not true in any sense. They don't believe it and they will not act as though they believe it. You'll get farther thinking of them as a criminal enterprise and acting accordingly.
And WHO is the State to decide for me, the living man? States can "talk" only with dead bodies, vessels, corporations, not with living men.
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The state is a group of people who claim the right to kill you over refusing to pay a parking ticket.
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If you put yourself under their jurisdiction, yes. You get what you fucking deserve... But I don't. And I do not pay anymore any tickets.
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That's why you're an example to us all.
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really? I think people hate me a lot. But is OK, I am happier then many. Because I found the truth.
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We can hate you and appreciate the example you're creating for us at the same time. ;)
LOL that was some time ago, when I wrote that using the telegram notepad.... Nice find man!
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Getting used to all these Territories. This cowboys horse needs a rest.
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I wonder how @k00b thought about the rewards spreading system with these new territories.
If users are commenting/posting into these private territories, those comments should not be included in the algo to get rewards from the general pool. Only the main SN territories should be included.
If I donate 10k sats to SN pool, maybe I don't want those sats to go to stackers that are posting garbage on other territories, right?
If is wild west... should be wild west...
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I saw @k00b mention that he wants the territories to function the same way as the main site, so I'd imagine the goal is to allow you to just donate to a particular territory.
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Was wondering the same. Notifications and such seemed to be way down.
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Sitting here in limbo Like a bird without a song Well, they're putting up resistance But I know that my faith will lead me on
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waiting for the red pill from @Lux
guys, did you learn about the use of red pen and black pen when signing your own name?
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yes, I always have a red pen with me, when I know is about to sign something.
Seems that nobody notice that everywhere you go, they give you a black pen. Last time, when I pulled out my red pen, they were fucking stunned.
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nice vid!
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It’s definitely an interesting social experiment, watching the territories evolve.
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the good thing is that the bitcoin one is cleaner and not so much noise.
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Too much link spamming tho
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And price posts / wen should i sell?????)
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I cant stop spending sats on bitrefill. Actually i can i buy only what i need kind of. But those amazon gift cards are nice. And also you are kind of supporting decentralization by shopping on amazon because its mostly small businesses that have the best products there. But you do get what you paid for, so a high review count and high score does not guarantee high quality.
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I cant stop spending sats
Avoid Consumerism. Stack sats.
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@handsome_latino this is in reference to my parenting post, which you commented on. I wanna tell you that I turned superhuman today. Was supporting my baby girl on the carrier while she slept blissfully on my chest. Had to have my udon lunch at the same time. Literally ate one strand of noodle at a time, my head facing towards the ceiling, so as not to let the soup spill on her hair. Finished my lunch without mishap
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That's amazing to hear. Right after I wrote that my kids both got very sick (looked like a bacterial infection), as well as us. It's been almost two months of on-and-off battling it. I just thought about how the obstacles in life make us strong.
Hope we keep in touch and slowly grow our tiny little ones into young bitcoiners.
Impressive you didn't spill any soup. Related to this, I used to get bad stomachaches before I had kids if I ate almost any food except very clean food. Now I can eat literally any kind of street food, with my kids jumping on top of me, standing, under the rain. Nothing happens to me. I have no clue why this happened but my life is soo much better because of this.
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Glad that you n yours are recovering in time to usher in Christmas!
Let’s call ourselves the superhuman dads club lol
Maybe it’s a case of your resolve telling your body that it cannot fail so that you can be present for your kids. That’s why your body is being whipped into shape haha
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Dude I pooped holding my sleeping baby on my lap once. I can’t tell if it’s peak or terrible parenting.
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Wow I peed while holding my baby on the carrier, but yours takes the cake. Seal claps for you 🦭 👏
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That is a hazy border between the two, I expect.
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Do what you gotta do lol
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Hands up if you’ve got a post in the works…
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Struggling now, there's a few things that I want to throw out there that are more conversations I want to have than posts; but I feel like I need to meet a high standard before I do.
But don't have time to meet a high standard. And so ... nothing.
Something will give eventually, but unclear what.
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In my mind I constantly have ideas about posting something but then, time passes and I never post. I am the worst. Any idea how to make the step and start posting?
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I use Nextcloud Notes to gather links/texts/images whenever i find something of value about a certain topic i want to post about, so when i do decide to make the post i already have most of the material necessary. It helps me a lot.
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how to make the step and start posting?
maybe start from posting small things in the saloon, I guess the real fear stop most people from posting is afraid no one pay attention? but most stackers read the saloon everyday haha
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Hehe I think you may be right. Good idea. I may have to come to the saloon more often 😅
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what I’ve done:
  • For short form, just share links with a little bit of commentary. Makes a lot of difference and saves people time deciding whether to click the link.
  • For longer stuff, just start writing. Do so in a markdown editor, as you can preview in real time. And after 2/3 hours tell yourself you’re not going to post it. Then you can come back to it another day and build on it if necessary. I tend to rush stuff out, even after spending hours or days on it. A 2nd set of eyes before publishing isn’t the worst idea, if you want it to have real impact. I tend to skip that step and get too excited about posting what is 90% done.
  • Another tip I found is tell people here in the saloon what you’re going to write about and I promise people will check back and find out how it’s going. Because they genuinely have an interest in the same topics.
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Thank you. Very good tips :)
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Great tips man!
I use SN as my markdown editor to see in real-time as i'm writing stuff for a post
Those day when your DCA is harded.
hahaha, just a joke... this kind of day are strong signal to the rest of the market.
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Its cruel how we've been fooled our whole lifes.
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Yeehaa. It's that time of day...
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Yeehaa! My money's on the brown horse.
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you are a few seconds faster than me 👁️
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I was still expecting to be 21st.
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see @k00b katy has my nieces watching the show now, viewership is up
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no, no ETA
There might be an ETA if someone thinks they are the chosen one :)
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Did you hear about the bitcoin fiction anthology? I think Bitcoin Magazine put out a review. I just skimmed it but it seemed positive. I don't have a link, and I don't like posting BM links anyway. :)
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It's a religious holiday in Portugal. Ahahahahah
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the force is the strongest in SN, only @nemo fish still missing.
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His opsec is impressive, but I think I sensed him lurking yesterday. I don't recall the exact anon circumstance.
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a "fish" yet everybody remember him, much impressive! how many people trying to get everyone's attention and yet they are unmemorable.
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one day nemo will come to your porch in form of a raccoon and you will never notice it 😂😂😂😂
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He is a master of disguise. I was suspicious of one near my back door last night. He had a sly smile.
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doesn't want to be in the daily SN celebrities contest
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which makes this fish more interesting 😂
Nostr sometimes still feels like people yelling into the water well or the abyss. Waiting for someone to say hello back. On SN, we're discussing specific themes & topics so conversations feel more focused and social.
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agree, Nostr still feels like fiat social media to me, posting things then wait for comments or likes? that lead to many people trying to farm engagements.
SN is flowing more naturally and getting zaps in between instead of cheap likes:)!
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100%. Looks like we’re all smitten.
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Every Nostr LIKE should be a zap, even if 1 sat. I don't like empty likes. They are trying to make Nostr like fiat social media, which i don't agree with. Bots will be everywhere. We need everything with a sat cost.
Commenting on my posts and "retweeting" my posts should also cost sats
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what if I shared something might regret in the future
All it takes is one wrong action, and everyone treats you like a monster, forcing you to take on that role.
That's why i use new identities after a while.
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So true. Or at least edit. Then you could scrub those notes, even if all the original relays are not online for those that are.
Clients could decide whether to respect edits or not, but it is a must have on the protocol IMHO, if we want to have civil conversations and not everything fossilised forever.
That or having ephemeral messages an accessible note type, that disappear after x months.
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I'm not active on Nostr. I prefer the community on SN.
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maybe at the end of the days it's about the people 🧐
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Nostr has lot of good material that is not on SN
what kind of topic? for me, the best stuff about Bitcoin is here, and that's the most important things to learn, and slowly graduate to Natural law, then the rest I can pretty much learn from old books 🧐
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