3146 sats \ 14 replies \ @supertestnet 9 Oct 2023
I'm very excited about the launch of this paper which is part of a project Robin and I have been working on together. Today I hope to launch a demonstration that you can use bitcoin to compute a 64 bit division function.
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571 sats \ 1 reply \ @supertestnet 9 Oct 2023
More details are provided on my github, where I'm also nearly finished with a proof-of-concept implementation of bitvm for bristol circuits:
https://github.com/supertestnet/tapleaf-circuits/
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @0fje0 10 Oct 2023
I've seen you (as in, on YT) code in sublime. And I thought that was impressive.
But this is so next level, I can't even.
To put it another way: I might know someone who knows someone who knows something about bristol circuits, if you catch my drift.
Thanks for the introduction!
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10 sats \ 2 replies \ @nout 9 Oct 2023
How much do I pay for 64b division? đ
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @ursuscamp 10 Oct 2023
The cost of a single transaction, if the BitVM paper is to believed
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3 sats \ 0 replies \ @supertestnet 10 Oct 2023
well, 2. In the cooperative case there is a "funding" transaction and then a "settlement" transaction. In the dispute case there is also 1 or more "challenge" transactions and 0 or more "response" transactions.
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43 sats \ 7 replies \ @Rsync25 OP 9 Oct 2023
Wow! Sounds awesome! Congrats SuperTesnet!
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1 sat \ 6 replies \ @artdesignbySF 9 Oct 2023
Interesting, reading it now.
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1 sat \ 5 replies \ @artdesignbySF 9 Oct 2023
I read it. Although I don't understand everything, I think I prob get the gist of it.
If this becomes very widespread in use, and there need to be made ever more hashes to load these programs into the leaves, will the likely hood of collisions increase?
And if so, can this be solved for by simple error-correction? Or maybe my questions doesn't make sense (i'm not very technical with computer stuff ;)
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45 sats \ 3 replies \ @supertestnet 9 Oct 2023
Don't worry, the multiverse will run out of energy before we brute-force-search our way to a sha256 hash collision.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @nout 9 Oct 2023
Are you counting Marvel style 9 realms, or infinite multiverse? đ
Either way congrats to the progress!
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @artdesignbySF 9 Oct 2023
Thanks for taking the time. I should've known that.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @artdesignbySF 9 Oct 2023
Multiverse idk but for btc within its hash-horizon, it should suffice.
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1 sat \ 0 replies \ @artdesignbySF 9 Oct 2023
idk if the question is even relevant.. so.. yeah sry. Trying to grok.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @rijndael 9 Oct 2023
ah! I was wondering how you got your demo out so fast!
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646 sats \ 1 reply \ @TonyGiorgio 9 Oct 2023
Holy shit it's a computer on Bitcoin.
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913 sats \ 0 replies \ @supertestnet 9 Oct 2023
https://media.tenor.com/86FchXjCRUMAAAAM/jack-nicholson-yes.gif
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405 sats \ 0 replies \ @BTC_LN 10 Oct 2023
I wrote a post that hopefully unpacks BitVM:
https://lightningnetwork.plus/posts/450
Please check and correct it if needed!
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30 sats \ 1 reply \ @TheBTCManual 9 Oct 2023
Hmmm, this one's going to be interesting, seems like a whole lot of merkle tree style goodies are coming to bitcoin, wonder which one will really take hold as the front runner?
Always great to see people pushing for things that don't need consensus changes and waste time fighting with the community
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1 sat \ 0 replies \ @Rsync25 OP 9 Oct 2023
Good point! We can build many things on Bitcoin without soft forks.
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31 sats \ 0 replies \ @anon 21 Oct 2023
Here an explanation video on bitvm for people with limited technical knowledge.
http://bit.ly/Bitvmtutorial
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252 sats \ 0 replies \ @versieboer 9 Oct 2023
I saw this elsewhere, came to post it here on stacker.news as soon as I started looking at it. Saw that you already posted it. Good job. Now I can go investigate it more...
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1226 sats \ 0 replies \ @Ribbit 9 Oct 2023
Bitcoin keeps getting better. Gold and Fiat keeps getting worse.
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200 sats \ 0 replies \ @fiksn 9 Oct 2023
While trying to understand the paper I did a simple explanation write-up https://github.com/fiksn/bitvm-explained
Feel free to add PRs to make this easier to grasp (or correct any mistakes I did).
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61 sats \ 0 replies \ @k00b 9 Oct 2023
From Sam Parker on bird app:
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97 sats \ 1 reply \ @Louferlou 9 Oct 2023
I can't understand shit but I have the feeling that Turing Completeness didn't allow shit on Eth and that it will be the same on Bitcoin
We are seeking, uncensorability, scalibility, immutability of a digital asset nothing more, and Bitcoin is almost there already.
I feel strong shitcoinery here even if I don't really care since the consensus rules are kept untouched.
And I'm also and happy that this innovation completely destroys the narrative of obvious high time pref stupid enemies of Bitcoin like Udi, Eric, and their kliq who want to change Bitcoin whenever they find a new fancy useless shit to build on Bitcoin.
Finally we should all get the obvious strong warning here. Taproot unlocked things (and it is maybe far from over) that nobody could have imagined before. So we should be extremely careful when we will decide to activate CTV or any form of covenants on Bitcoin IMHO
We have to take all the time necessary and stop being pressured by Bitcoin enemies
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @netstatic 10 Oct 2023
To be more precise it didnât unlock things that people couldnât imagine, all those changes were intentional. What people didnât imagine was how those changes would be used. Most core devs didnât spend too much time worrying about ordinals because the system was still functioning as expected
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60 sats \ 0 replies \ @patrick1 9 Oct 2023
Very impressed with stacker news comments today. Would have expected everyone to flip out about this.
Very excited to see what BitVM brings.
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10 sats \ 0 replies \ @fiksn 10 Oct 2023
From a theoretical computer science standpoint I am really excited. In practice I don't think this will change much. First and foremost bitcoin is a store of value, competing with real estate and gold. And in the end no one asks whether either of those bricks can be used to emulate a turing machine or not.
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10 sats \ 0 replies \ @TheWildHustle 9 Oct 2023
Barely understand, but I'm down for bitcoin chess contracts
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @SUPERMAX 16 Apr
Absolutely brilliant. Need to share more about this. Known about this for quite awhile from super, but we need more building!
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @tomlaies 11 Oct 2023
Am I the only one who thinks Bitcoin does not need to be a decentralized compute like shitcoins?
Like, idgaf what people pay their vbytes for. But some usecases just don't need to be on the hardest money in the world settlement layer?
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @TheWildHustle 10 Oct 2023
What is this wizardry?
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @nuII 10 Oct 2023
Prediction markets when
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @JReeCoin 9 Oct 2023
BitVM falks doing a good job there. Honestly, I'm a NOOB here...
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @03875c54a5 11 Nov 2023 freebie
cool