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Howdy there, partner! Welcome on into the Stacker Saloon.

Saddle on up to a stool and spill the beans about your day, fire away with them questions, or let loose and give us the lowdown on your wild and woolly life. We're all ears, so don't hold back!

We're open round the clock, so mosey on in whenever you please!

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I'm not sure I got it. May have been 301.

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you deserve to be the 300

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only real cowboys (with hats) understand this circlejerk

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ah no, wasn't talking about you. I know you hide it.
I think you have a shit ton of hats with all the sats you are zapping around.

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285 comments... damn another record for the Saloon.

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290, wait 291 now

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the new Saloon is about to be released / open...

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Damn we rlly decided to skip 200 and shoot straight for 300 comments

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nemo's fault, like usual

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Can you imagine a world with 1M little darthcoins?

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Wife has the flu and I produced another Bitcoin And . . . episode after I learned how to use a Cornell Note Taking extension in Obsidian.md. It's pretty rad but is a little wonky. I used it to notate a write-up on a Silvopasture project from Drawdown.org.

Zapathon is rekting my Damus feed rn.

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102 sats \ 1 reply \ @Car 21 Sep 2023

Love the pod try to listen to it every chance I get.

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Thanks, Car. That's a huge compliment and it made my night.

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Enjoying life and trying to not take seriously the human obligations.

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✈️ Houston’s airport literally has everything for everyone, all while maintaining reasonable prices.

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SN bingo:

saloon blows up@nemo is blamed for big zapseveryone is worried about the snail
someone asks what the cowboy hats are aboutanon army shows up@DarthCoin calls someone a shitcoiner
monero is mentionedsomeone has a feature requestsomeone is accused to use AI
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Yep. That’s pretty much a regular day here!

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did you use AI for that?

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no, I just grab it from internet

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ah, nice picture!

i see, @nemo has striked again

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not sure is nemo, I think is someone else...
yeah is really nice picture. I think is exactly how is the stackers saloon.

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But what's really up with the cowboy hats? Why was this a thing in the wild west?

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a cowboy without a hat is like a bitcoiner without control of his wallet keys...

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LOL yeah that scene from Yellowstone is great.

We used to have a friend in school. It became a running gag to always blame him, even when he was not around, lol

I hope he is doing well.

wild west

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we will not show up

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then i would need to fill 7 more cells, lol

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There's nothing your enemies will hate more than you loving them so much they love you back.

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I always had in my mind a distant meaning for "enemy"; never considered anyone at this level. When I was a kid there were real fights and struggles in the school but, nowadays I think "enemy" is really a strong word. Unless someone wants to eliminate you, I cannot see as an enemy. As long as I know, nobody wants to get rid of me. No enemies then =) Oh yes bureaucrats and government but, we've little to do with it.

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Wrote down this quote the other day, “Let the currents move beneath you. It plays in your favor. Powers will shift enemies can vanish. Time will do the rest.” It truly is the perfect way to look at things.

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This really sounds too good to be true -- what about crushing them entirely? They'll hate that less? Idk. Big if true.

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If you crush them entirely, what's left to hate you? :)

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Uhhh there's also self-hatred

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and self-love :)

I'm just playing games with words

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Y'all got any of that self-love? Someone stream me some love and respect, because I tell ya... (lol I'm Dangerfield-ing cause things got a bit dark)

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Everyone has something relatively broken about them. Sometimes it's visible and other times it isn't.

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Find your balance you must. Is not about being visible or not, is about how you control your feeling about that broken thing.
My balance is Bitcoin.
https://imgprxy.stacker.news/SMII5qzvtpw8tdlRpIsauFGI__jJG8SHInCL8pb_4Bw/rs:fit:600:500:0/g:no/aHR0cHM6Ly9pLnBvc3RpbWcuY2MvRnMwQkh6eWcvYml0Y29pbi1zd29yZC5qcGc

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There is balance in all things.

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It'll be nice when people stop thinking of us as just another marketing channel and start thinking of us as a community of human beings.

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Most people are still so used to dropping links like in the fiat platform, for getting traffic or clicks.

Dropping links without any engagement in a room full of smart people is a waste IMHO.

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imo this is a +1 for adding a comment option/requirement to link posts.

i think many coming to SN to market their own stuff are sharing links and leaving. a brief explanation of why their link matters will either prompt people to engage more deeply or not share their link at all.

it also has a side benefit of nudging people to read and understand the third-party links they share on here. i find myself sharing links here as fast as possible, often before even reading a single word.

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i find myself sharing links here as fast as possible, often before even reading a single word

https://imgprxy.stacker.news/Yx3hNvNJEDPSgi4R0sqOKH9kdOXC9x2sVjts8K8YEO4/rs:fit:600:500:0/g:no/aHR0cHM6Ly9pLmltZ2ZsaXAuY29tLzd6eW1pZi5qcGc

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it’s true!

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22 sats \ 1 reply \ @kr 21 Sep 2023

definitely racing to be first.

one of the undesirable consequences though, is that if i’m sharing an article from someone who i know is reputable (but on a topic i know nothing about), it’s highly unlikely that i’ll have anything useful to add when other people make comments… and that can sometimes be the difference between a thread that dies and one that thrives.

its much better if someone competent in the subject matter is the one to post the article.

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Actual lol (a chuckle, a sensible chortle even)

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Shitcoiners still don't understand that bitcoiners are humans. The good humans that will remain the last ones on this planet.

That's why they always try to shitcoinize the Bitcoin world with their crap. I saw this over and over for the last 10+ years.

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Have to start somewhere though

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Or maybe came for the sats, stayed for the fun.

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Yep that's why I like to encourage them simply showing up even if it's maybe not earnest on their end yet.

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I was just messing around with BTC Map and discovered that there's a deli about 10 miles away that accepts bitcoin. I verified this with a phone call. Looks like I'm going to have to plan a lunch excursion. I intend to use this app more. It's also compatible with the open map project, so my organic app will get me there.

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That’s a great discovery!

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You know, it probably wouldn't seem such a big deal in most places. I feel like I live in a bitcoin desert. No adoption or interest. Yet.

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It’s the joy of discovery I guess. Seeing your local area with fresh BTC eyes maybe. I need to do more of the same.

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Excellent idea! I was just thinking about my own belly. Maybe I can make this a regular thing with the owners. They are obviously bitcoiners

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the thread is still open

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I have to work today and tomorrow. Maybe I'll shoot for Saturday. Best to stick to coffee to start. New York fiat prices are ridiculous

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I hope this is worthy of a short story…

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It would be pretty boring unless something unexpected happens.

New York fiat prices are ridiculous

Is going up forever siggy ...

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..agreed.. :)

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Paradise is sometimes closer than we think.

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Did @ad run dry? Rewards are much smaller today

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We have a new sponsor coming. We are waiting for them to sort stuff out of their side first.

In the meantime @kr is going to be supplementing the rewards pool with the forbidden sats so our rewards experiments remain mostly consistent.

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Definitely not a worst case.

My dream is that SN's end state is a sat-powered protocol that operates autonomously like bitcoin by the design incentivizing its operation. Let's see if I can make something centralized work first though.

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Unite them. Unite the clans.

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I did it.

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We need a donationchain like stackchain

Who's next??

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Where do you find these things???!!!

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maaan, is wild west like @birdeye21 perfectly explain it yesterday in the Saloon
#260528

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You really don't want to see all my bitcoin bookmarks and memes accumulated in all these 10+ years in Bitcoinlandia... from many sources where bitcoiners posted them.
😂😂😂😂😂

When I see a nice article, post or meme, I just bookmark it or save it.

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Howdy gang!! Little Friday is here, boy the week went pretty fast, I do apologize for not sending my morning good vibes message yesterday, I had a lot of work and reviewing exams for my students, but rest assured I did send them you in my morning routine, today is no exception, so I wish you a phenomenal day and upcoming weekend, may it be fruitful and successful, remember to take profit and hodl. Nice sunny day here in Playa, might go for a dip later on today if the time allows it, let's see what the tide brings, figure of speech. I wanted to thank you for being and to tell you that you're important and you matter, never forget that my good friend. Be well and stay frosty!!

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PSA: tip more = stack more

My effort to tip more, in order to recirculate my sats into the sn community, has backfired comically. I'm now getting even more in daily payouts for being one of the top zappers.

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Am I a self fulfilling prophet on this site?

When I upvote things hard enough, it goes to the top, when I do this early, I get more rewards back for tipping early content that goes to the top. Maybe I just have a good tract record in the things that I tip. Or maybe I'm just the choosen one this site needed.

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I just made a similar post. People are tipping below their own optimal level right now and people like us are reaping the benefits.

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Build for the future. Your present will thank you.

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@k00b another idea, if is possible: a SN reminder attached to a post.

like: remind me in x blocks / halvings / days/ years / whatever and user receive a msg in that day.

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Yes, agreed. That would be a useful bot to have.

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You want me to add the proposal on github to track it?

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Yes, please add a bot label.

Loving visiting my new saloon. Howdy all 🤠! Another day old and Bitcoin wiser!

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Shavings of elephants leg in a pitta bread please. Extra chilli sauce.

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I like memes, but I love the replies to memes, sometimes are even better than the meme 😂😂😂

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earth's finest cuisine

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Look out of any window, any morning, any evening, any day.

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I wish I saw this when I look

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then you need glasses. I see it every day.

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Deer and wild turkey have taken over my little rural neighborhood. Lots of food and no natural predators yet. Coyotes have discovered how to cross New York City bridges and have begun heading east. It's like waiting for the cavalry.

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Near my partner's village, environmentalists illegally re-introduced wolves back into the ecosystem and they're now spreading all across the mountains. We know a farmer there who had half his flock of sheep eaten.

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If that’s where I think didn’t a spokesperson for the release say something about re-educating farmers.? Madness

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I don't speak the language very well, but my understanding was that the wolves were released into the wild without warning. I'll check later though.

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Shit happens when people try to micromanage complex systems. That's why socialism will never work.

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My definition of a socialist; ‘someone who has f**k all and wants to give it to everybody else’
It’s a short step from telling people what they should do, to what they should think, to what you are required to do and think… and then we are all wearing the government mandated dungarees, queuing up for bread and grateful for a few extra kopecks when we spy on our neighbours.

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@k00b must add those cowboy pistols in SN, ASAP.

Why don't you go and put some traps / hunt and eat that meat?

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There once was a hunter called Siggy,
Who sought turkey in New York City.
With stealth, he would stalk ,
His eyes like a hawk,
But he forgot his gun - what a pity!

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You have now waded into limericks. Congratulations! I believe this is the first family friendly limerick I have ever read. I see bitcoin nation's Howl right around the corner.

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Small steps lol!
Wanted to do something a little cheerier - been sent home from work due to the weather.

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ᕦ(ò_óˇ) Day 6 of exercising everyday before the saloon opens

Got up before the alarm today. It was raining and I thought: "Did I jinx it? Just yesterday I asked myself what I would do if it rains. So far, I always had good weather. I hope I am just going to put on a good jacket and go outside anyway."

Then it stopped raining. But I was pretty sure I would have gone to the calisthenics park anyway. However, maybe because it was only a little bit of rain. Have to wait for the first time heavy rain in the morning to really test my streak.

The push-ups (still elevated) were already a lot easier. Did the same workout as on Day 2 except I integrated knee raises into it (and not only did some at the end).

I also asked someone if they have an idea how I could do hyperextensions here. I like training my back (especially as a developer it's good, I think) and I once had an accident where I fell through the roof of a parking space onto stairs to a cellar with my back. That hurt and the first question the EMS on the phone had was if I could still move my feet. Fortunately, I could.

In the hospital, they said I must have fallen like a cat since I got very lucky. They said (iirc) that my back muscles did hold my lumbar spine good in place. So I did not break any vertebrae (getting paralyzed in the process); just two spinous process (I hope this is the right term, we call it "Wirbelsäulenfortsatz" in German). My lower back muscles also helped during the recovery. I recovered fully except that I still have a electrical sensation when I touch a specific spot at the lower side of my body. But I consider this to just be a kind reminder that I shouldn't do such stupid things like climbing on roofs anymore, lol. Or at least be more careful. I fell through it since I didn't look that I was only stepping on the metal bars, not on the tin plastic.

The person said there is no good spot for hyperextensions but there are other exercises for the lower back. Then he showed me some which was very nice! I decided to do some supermans and hold them for one minute with roughly 30s breaks. Did 3 of those.

Next time, I'll also integrate them into my workout or do more of them at the end.

I wanted to take a picture of the calisthenics park for SN but I forgot. Next time.

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Agreed probably best doing them at the end - you don’t want to fatigue your core before doing some of those compound moves as it’s important for maintaining good form (ie the squats / press ups etc)

Ah, didn't think of that when I said "do more of them at the end", ha

Or it was intuition? ;)

Thanks for the tips! Much appreciated.

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You are welcome! Keep at it.

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I already feel that it's harder to not go than to go :) Using the saloon as a personal accountability as @orthwyrm said here seems to really work for me.

I also can tell that my sleep improved by a lot (I got up before the alarm today). I also go to bed earlier since I know that I must go outside and be back around 12pm. So I can't stay up too late. I kind of want to go to bed early so I can get up early so I can be back early so I can continue working on SN in a refreshed state, lol

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People almost don’t want to believe how important sleep is to improving quality of life, health and wellness, and that’s why we ‘cheat’ it. Find the best number of hours for you and stick to them - it pays dividends.

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I am also looking forward to going outside tomorrow :)

I think I'll take the train to outskirts of the city I haven't been to yet. And then walk back from there for 1-2h.

I also really like that I can say that I already exercised and my day hasn't even really started yet. Surprisingly, you have more energy for the rest of the day.

I still know too well how bad it feels when all you did during a day was to sedate yourself with YouTube or other mindless stuff. Then you also have nothing to dream about.

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Behind in my morning chores. Slept too late. Not a good start to the day.

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Must have been a reason for it. Enjoy the extra sleep! I try and avoid hitting snooze but it’s tempting for a few more minutes in bed and then a mad dash out the door lol

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Late night out with the family. It was fun, but now I pay up

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When I am in such mood, I always start the day with checking the latest memes in telegram groups or SN.

Smile, later will be worse.

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https://imgprxy.stacker.news/F4LLrE0WBaZqIsVS_mg-V7uV4bI_JsP7Kg2MZ7jTZKQ/rs:fit:600:500:0/g:no/aHR0cHM6Ly9pLnBvc3RpbWcuY2MvbmNoNjdrZ3cvREFSVEgtaGVscGVyLmpwZw

As Bitcoin changed my life totally (please read the story here), now I will try to help others to change their life too (read this thread - Pay it forward. For good, with Bitcoin.

If you want to change the world, be the example, do it yourself, do not wait for others to do the job.

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This is beautiful. I love it ,I love bitcoin, and I love that you have the patience to teach regarded people like me.

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Browsing my old images, I found this... from Adopting Bitcoin conference in El Salvador
Look who's sending sats live on the stage!
https://imgprxy.stacker.news/2wo2E-VJ3mspjCx7Y_sZuEiCNesy61g3p7ZHcM6v33o/rs:fit:600:500:0/g:no/aHR0cHM6Ly9pLnBvc3RpbWcuY2MvSzhSaG12eHovQWRvcHRpbmctQml0Y29pbi1kYXJ0aC10aXAuanBn

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sorry for the image quality (again), will be fixed soon!

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the original I think is also quite bad, was a screen capture form youtube in a low res.

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Day 159 of snailposting everyday 'til BTC hits $100k.

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GE snail, love this momentum

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Can't stop now!

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Good job snail!

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Welcome __@_'-'

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So 719 million poor
Live on just 7907 sats a day
Cycles will save them

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Nice haiku as usual, but damn those are scary numbers.

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Kind of wild to think that shitposting on SN nets a higher salary than working in a sweatshop.

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Thank you. Pretty terrifying putting it as sats (as per this mornings exchange rate). Bitcoin will help and we just need to get them here.

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We do. Makes me think that ALL our efforts should be directed towards helping the most needy, for charitable and selfish reasons.

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Charity always has those two sides. And for many it’s easy to give money but it removes you from the act of directly giving time or energy.

I have had some of my most rewarding life experiences as a volunteer in charity projects. In many cases the volunteers are as broken as the clients!

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I have been slowly trying to break away from only passive donation. My wife does local meals on wheels (delivering meals to impoverished seniors) and we're starting soup kitchen work, but would like it to be bitcoin based.

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Well done! The meal is only half the issue with meals-on-wheels… governments fractured our families and made us dependent on the state and it creates loneliness in the elderly which visits, like meals-on-wheels, can help alleviate.

Not sure where Bitcoin fits specifically….. I’ll tell you the story of the ‘contactless debit card machine homeless guy’ another time. Just trying to make his way and adopt a technology he though would help.

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May the Force be with you.

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I LIKE THIS ONE! Can I borrow it indefinitely ;)

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The real t-shirt? Nooooo.
But the image is yours.

Here is me and my daughter (Leia), years ago... with that shirt. At a Star Wars premiere.
https://imgprxy.stacker.news/jVM4ErN_lvfzULN-mny9Ki7JXbX41VF6kzz45K_xdL0/rs:fit:600:500:0/g:no/aHR0cHM6Ly9pLnBvc3RpbWcuY2MvUkYyY1hKSGovQml0Y29pbi1EYXJ0aC1Db2luLUxlaWEuanBn

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Awesome. You're daughter looks very familiar Lmao.

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Lmao. Thank you buddy. 1 sec apart ;)

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To be precise, it's your 10:00:06.591+0000 vs 10:00:07.071+0000 from @nemo.

So 480ms apart :)

(You can see the exact timestamps when you hover over the relative time)

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That's very tight. Thanks for the detailed info.

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Snail pace. It will always be a tight race!

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True that. I'm looking forward to the rematch Lol.

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I think they are all valid points. I suspect no change from my perspective although I will probably stopping flagging (unless 5hitcoin chicanery then it’s open Sat season)

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Hey Nemo,
Yep. I don’t know.
Are downzaps helping? Is it enough. I tend to call bots out when I see them but downzapping just feels wasteful. It’s sharing sats to the ‘best’ Stackers but is it better to just zap content we like?
Thinking about a post and then comment verification process to deter bots?
Sorry for the stream of consciousness - I really don’t know is all I know lol.

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I completely agree re the questionable worth of flagging or downzapping. It’s easier for me to mute but it’s not helping the community. We may help ‘tenderfeet’ but I would imagine most of us are on ‘Wild West’ mode anyway.

And whilst downzaps do end up in rewards that is only shared with the top 1/3 and I would rather reward the interesting content from my perspective than the consensus since I already contribute to rewards each morning.

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Its all about the community… but you are right of course - that’s bigger than us.

I wouldn’t suggest an agreement or pact as I like things out in the open.

If muting makes this a legacy issue then that’s hits me….. at least this chat already occurring in a past saloon lol

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What happened?

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S.o. wants to mute me?? What did I do? Too drunk?

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Aah. Got it now. Sorry, the greek wine is really impacting...
Maybe I am ignorant but I would let it run to see more development. Personally link posting is a bit out of hand I guess...

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Now I need to scroll all the way down to find my previous streak comment

And can't use CTRL+F in the PWA, I think

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you look really nice in this role

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To be that cool. Hey, is that my 2006 Toyota with 208,000 miles on it?

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You doxxed my ride!

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Going to PubKey...

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When I go to hear Max and Stacy I'm taking the subway.

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Smooth as silk

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I clicked the link. My dog heard the howl and started to run around barking.

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No, I just zapped you 100 social credits.

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@k00b another idea in the wild (west): rename sats into SN "cowboy credits".
In reality these are the sats in SN, just credits, until the user is sending them out of SN.

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Question:

  • all people are cowboys?
  • all cowboys are people?

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sorry today I was calm... I have only 121 comments

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hey you are spoiling my new memes that I am preparing for the next saloons !

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why?

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when you mentioned Saigon, the Saigon beer was the first thing came to my mind 😂

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i have no idea, i don't know enough about that part of the code base

/cc @k00b

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Nope shouldn’t

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If an item has upzaps, downzaps are subtracted from the upzaps - it's a tug of war, a war of trust and sats. So that's one possible explanation - other people upzapped it. Another is that when you downzapped before, other people had already downzapped it.

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is there a difference if I downzap something with 100 sats at once, or if I downzap it twice with 50?

No difference. It works just like upzaps. We consider the entire zap amount as a whole and even end up using some basic algebra to do this.

that is why I started to wonder whether the unpaywall comment does not count towards the the upvote of those specific posts

Outlawing does not consider comments. Only upzaps and downzaps.

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It could be a bug.

If it's not a bug, other reasons: If those 20 sats came from someone whom everyone trusts 2-3x more than you, it'd cost you >10k sats to outlaw it on your own. If the difference is even higher, it'd cost you >100k.

Also you're all gaining or losing trust everyday depending on what you're upzapping and downzapping. If you had an easier time outlawing before, it might be that you lost some trust.

but I found that I ended up sinking a good 500 sats in each of those posts

now, do you remember my words?

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Yes, I much appreciate the input.

Part of the plan with personalized feeds is that nuking is relative to the logged in stacker. Posts will only be seen as outlawed by people who trust the downzappers, but to people who don't they will still see the posts. So this is another thing to imagine as we troubleshoot.

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You start throwing some deep words here...
Impressive...

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I slept so late last night, lots of thinkings.

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gifs you can hear

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I got you. Lmao.

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May the Force be with you, always.

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That's so true. Some Sage advice right here!

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