Daily discussion thread \ stacker news

Daily discussion thread

223 comments \ @saloon 6 Sep 2023 \ yesterday

This is a thread for random discussions that gets posted everyday at 5am central.

Tell us what you're doing today, ask questions, or vent about your life. Whatever you want, let it rip!

0 sats \ 3 replies \ @k00b 7 Sep 2023

Just realized my two favorite movies/stories are identical in all but relatively superficial ways:

Willie Wonka and The Chocolate Factory (1971 furshur)
Ready Player One

21 sats \ 2 replies \ @k00b 7 Sep 2023

The moral of each is basically: be honest, good, and determined -> reward

The story of each is basically: someone honest, good, and determined is rewarding you their work for being similar

It's the story of finding your soulmentor or something.

10 sats \ 1 reply \ @davidw 7 Sep 2023

I guess that means we need a parallel plot to Stacker News.

Will https://outer.space also achieve product-market fit in its 1st year? Tune in next month & keep poking @k00b to find out..

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @k00b 7 Sep 2023

Lol

994 sats \ 1 reply \ @nout 6 Sep 2023

IDEA: Run an evil twin of Stacker News called "Slacker News"... it will only show content that is wasting time. It will encourage people to stop working and pushing, and just slack. It will discourage use of bitcoin.

994 sats \ 0 replies \ @nemo 6 Sep 2023

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21 sats \ 0 replies \ @BITC0IN 6 Sep 2023

BITCOIN

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @siggy47 6 Sep 2023

Looking for a FOSS fdroid or obtanium supported wallet to store Ticketmaster tix on my graphene OS. Any recommendations?

20 sats \ 0 replies \ @WeAreAllSatoshi 6 Sep 2023

I don’t have a helpful answer… knowing Ticketmaster, good luck…

1932 sats \ 12 replies \ @kr 6 Sep 2023

the daily discussion thread is absolutely on fire today, already more comments than the most commented post in site history.

1613 sats \ 0 replies \ @TheWildHustle 6 Sep 2023

hyperstackernewsization

2898 sats \ 1 reply \ @birdeye21 6 Sep 2023

https://imgprxy.stacker.news/r4lodHE5WBKBGRQsmc5skRQf2xJ2BZ74t-xEEtMPjIU/rs:fit:600:500:0/g:no/aHR0cHM6Ly9pbTQuZXpnaWYuY29tL3RtcC9lemdpZi00LTIyOWFlM2YxNGQuZ2lm

1518 sats \ 0 replies \ @carlosfandango 6 Sep 2023

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1889 sats \ 8 replies \ @nemo 6 Sep 2023

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152 sats \ 7 replies \ @ek 6 Sep 2023

probably 25-50% is only related to the bug since we discovered it, lol

it's been hours me trying to figure out what triggers it, i may need a drink too now lol

and i think i gave away 30k sats to zap all these comments today, lol

2341 sats \ 6 replies \ @nemo 6 Sep 2023

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994 sats \ 0 replies \ @carlosfandango 6 Sep 2023

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954 sats \ 4 replies \ @nemo 6 Sep 2023

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10 sats \ 3 replies \ @ek 6 Sep 2023

"free" as in "1 sat per post"? lol

1298 sats \ 2 replies \ @nemo 6 Sep 2023

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10 sats \ 1 reply \ @ek 6 Sep 2023

ahh, i see

yeah, that's pretty cool

i wanted to make a post asking what people like the most about SN

but I thought people will just respond "stacking sats"

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1777 sats \ 0 replies \ @k00b 6 Sep 2023

The barista put enough expresso shots in my ice coffee that I'm effectively lobotomized.

21 sats \ 2 replies \ @Natalia 6 Sep 2023

It is quite interesting: today is so crowded, yet yesterday was so quiet.

I wonder what is the difference besides @nemo is back 🧐

21 sats \ 0 replies \ @ek 6 Sep 2023

i guess you mean "yesterday was so quiet" at the beginning

it also had 100+ comments, just not before @birdeye wakes up, lol

994 sats \ 0 replies \ @nemo 6 Sep 2023

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43 sats \ 0 replies \ @lawndough 6 Sep 2023

@k00b Can we get more than 30 characters for the poll options? I have a poll I want to submit, but each option requires more than 30 characters.

0 sats \ 5 replies \ @TonyGiorgio 6 Sep 2023

Pretty idiotic that a person that posts ASCII art of a snail gets top comment every day. Do they get the top comment sat rewards as well? Are the rewards that easily gamed or has comment quality really gone down that much?

70 sats \ 0 replies \ @ek 6 Sep 2023

i give sats to the snail because of the consistency to show up

1023 sats \ 1 reply \ @bitcointerest 6 Sep 2023

Buddy, what's the problem? I make an effort to be here early everyday. I don't spam and I keep it respectful. I would never feel bad if you or anyone else got the rewards. I really haven't done anything wrong so I don't understand why the negative comment towards me. No hard feelings, though.

1 sat \ 0 replies \ @TonyGiorgio 6 Sep 2023

Don't take it personally. You do you.

1 sat \ 0 replies \ @WeAreAllSatoshi 6 Sep 2023

Maybe you should pour salt on the snail

10 sats \ 0 replies \ @nemo 6 Sep 2023

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10 sats \ 0 replies \ @PRA3S3NT1A 6 Sep 2023

Unfortunately just spend money... I mean what else can you do? Everything costs at least 3 times more than 3 years ago. Making money is harder than ever. Only online gambling and crypto industry is rising little bit. All other things are just falling.

7096 sats \ 2 replies \ @nkmg1c_ventures 6 Sep 2023

I found out a friend of mine died in a car accident yesterday. Feels bad man. Something something time preference. Hug your loved ones people.

21 sats \ 0 replies \ @ek 6 Sep 2023

yes, sorry for your loss, hope you are doing okay

5 sats \ 0 replies \ @carlosfandango 6 Sep 2023

Sorry for your loss

2440 sats \ 5 replies \ @birdeye21 6 Sep 2023

Just had gpt4 pull some cool visuals together for me

Daily discussion threads - comments per day (since May):

https://imgprxy.stacker.news/hLFtubF_EmWj7HWXEmNql-Pvy7oRhssuMUjVhZNZEzg/rs:fit:600:500:0/g:no/aHR0cHM6Ly9pLmltZ3VyLmNvbS9VQ0dxYndWLnBuZw

Cumulative DDT comments (since May):

https://imgprxy.stacker.news/6vBdOKoKbeiP4ZfV11HQFTDB9-cAOVJuJ_2ew_vVNco/rs:fit:600:500:0/g:no/aHR0cHM6Ly9pLmltZ3VyLmNvbS9QTG1OeDlHLnBuZw

We on the rise

32 sats \ 0 replies \ @carlosfandango 6 Sep 2023

Very very cool

21 sats \ 3 replies \ @ek 6 Sep 2023

Thanks, was too lazy to do this for @orthwyrm here, lol

But why only since May?

And I see, we must have more coments tomorrow to keep the streak going

1188 sats \ 2 replies \ @birdeye21 6 Sep 2023

gpt was having trouble with the full set of data for whatever reason

I mainly just wanted to convey that recent exponential growth anyway, comments ranged around 10-40 for a long time prior to August from what I glanced at

1518 sats \ 0 replies \ @davidw 7 Sep 2023

Even exponential tech can’t comprehend exponential gainz

21 sats \ 0 replies \ @ek 6 Sep 2023

gpt was having trouble with the full set of data for whatever reason

interesting, lol

we could to the same for "sats spent in daily discussion"

52 sats \ 0 replies \ @BitcoinIsTheFuture 6 Sep 2023

Another day stacking cheap sats to cold storage. An exciting part of this bear market I hope to look back on!

3463 sats \ 12 replies \ @orthwyrm 6 Sep 2023

Day 144 of snailposting everyday 'til BTC hits $100k.

__@_'-'

50 sats \ 0 replies \ @Public_N_M_E 6 Sep 2023

🫡

622 sats \ 0 replies \ @zodthebarbarian 6 Sep 2023

First there was the laser eyed maxis. Now there's snail club maxis. The philosophy is all there, we both waiting for 100k only difference is one is a snail

60 sats \ 0 replies \ @BlokchainB 6 Sep 2023

👍

60 sats \ 0 replies \ @BBitcoinUSA 6 Sep 2023

⚡️🐌⚡️

900 sats \ 7 replies \ @orthwyrm 6 Sep 2023

what did you guys do to the daily lmao

69 sats \ 0 replies \ @carlosfandango 6 Sep 2023

I didn’t touch it… was the others.

59 sats \ 4 replies \ @ek 6 Sep 2023

we were waiting for you! haha

30 sats \ 3 replies \ @orthwyrm 6 Sep 2023

Will this be a record for total comments in the daily? I seldom see it crack 100, and the day is young.

594 sats \ 2 replies \ @nemo 6 Sep 2023

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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @ek 6 Sep 2023

what is the @odell prophecy?

994 sats \ 0 replies \ @nemo 6 Sep 2023

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588 sats \ 0 replies \ @nemo 6 Sep 2023

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1122 sats \ 6 replies \ @birdeye21 6 Sep 2023

107 comments before i even wake up??

726 sats \ 5 replies \ @nemo 6 Sep 2023

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19 sats \ 4 replies \ @birdeye21 6 Sep 2023

did we squash it??

9 sats \ 3 replies \ @ek 6 Sep 2023

No, it's this one. I tried to reproduce locally but wasn't able to.

Maybe it's related to comments being relatively new. But we serialize everything in the backend (to prevent again draining fund) so I don't think race conditions should be possible 🤔

726 sats \ 2 replies \ @nemo 6 Sep 2023

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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @ek 6 Sep 2023

lol, now I can't unsee

And SJW probably also not when they read your comment

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @nemo 6 Sep 2023

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752 sats \ 74 replies \ @ek 6 Sep 2023

lol, 2.59 comments per minute or 23.16 seconds per new comment so far

0 sats \ 16 replies \ @ek 6 Sep 2023

test

0 sats \ 10 replies \ @ek 6 Sep 2023

ohh, i think i got it @nemo, @carlosfandango

at least i was able to trigger the bug, lol. i wanted to reply to this comment using reply on another page

so it must be related to reply on another page

0 sats \ 9 replies \ @nemo 6 Sep 2023

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0 sats \ 8 replies \ @ek 6 Sep 2023

but for some reason it doesn't happen on my local machine. i need another comment thread with reply on another page.

how about we use this one? :)

0 sats \ 7 replies \ @ek 6 Sep 2023

-10 sats

0 sats \ 6 replies \ @ek 6 Sep 2023

-100 sats

0 sats \ 5 replies \ @ek 6 Sep 2023

-1000 sats

ok, short pause, don't want to pay 10k sats lol

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0 sats \ 4 replies \ @nemo 6 Sep 2023

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0 sats \ 3 replies \ @ek 6 Sep 2023

i see ... even without using reply on another page?

or maybe it's really if two people use reply on another page at the same time?

0 sats \ 2 replies \ @nemo 6 Sep 2023

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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @ek 6 Sep 2023

nah, you didn't. another data point

to which comment did you want to reply?

i think i'll just do some static code analysis now, lol

994 sats \ 0 replies \ @nemo 6 Sep 2023

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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @carlosfandango 6 Sep 2023

So it comes up at the bottom of the thread ‘reply on another page’… so I click that and enter this comment.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @ek 6 Sep 2023

I just tried the same but it worked for me

0 sats \ 7 replies \ @carlosfandango 6 Sep 2023

Thank you (but not commenting)

10 sats \ 1 reply \ @ek 6 Sep 2023

i think we're already past the event horizon

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @nemo 6 Sep 2023

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10 sats \ 4 replies \ @nemo 6 Sep 2023

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21 sats \ 3 replies \ @ek 6 Sep 2023

lol, and I was confused about the

(no commenting)

but that makes sense!

Very interesting bug indeed ... will reproduce today and fix. Maybe we can get a "emergency release" out this week

/cc @k00b

766 sats \ 2 replies \ @nemo 6 Sep 2023

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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @ek 6 Sep 2023

lol, I think I got a slight taste of the @k00b experience

I just looked at my phone and there are too many notifications

I might need to restart it to clear all of them, lol :)

10 sats \ 0 replies \ @nemo 6 Sep 2023

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704 sats \ 35 replies \ @carlosfandango 6 Sep 2023

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0 sats \ 4 replies \ @carlosfandango 6 Sep 2023

@carlosfandango replied on a new page….

This is where all the trouble started as I recall….

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @carlosfandango 6 Sep 2023

Hang on a minute. The link I clicked that came up in my notifications had brought me here (the new page).

I feel like Dr Who walked into a festival toilet thinking it was his tardis and it’s brought him back to where he went in.

0 sats \ 2 replies \ @ek 6 Sep 2023

wait, so you can consistently reproduce it since it happens every time do you? lol

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @carlosfandango 6 Sep 2023

So i think there are two issues here; not placing comments in the right section of the posts and it’s producing new pages when comments are ‘full’ (usually around 10 replies in)

2341 sats \ 0 replies \ @carlosfandango 6 Sep 2023

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0 sats \ 5 replies \ @carlosfandango 6 Sep 2023

And when I look back at the main thread it shows your comment (not mine) and says; ‘reply on another page’

0 sats \ 4 replies \ @ek 6 Sep 2023

not sure I understand. To which comment did you try to reply?

And what do you mean with

it shows your comment (not mine)

5914 sats \ 3 replies \ @carlosfandango 6 Sep 2023

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10 sats \ 2 replies \ @ek 6 Sep 2023

Thanks for the detailed description! So it basically worked for me but not for you for some reason.

Are you running this through a mobile device or computer based with a mobile emulator? As this could be a mobile issue rather than computer.

Good point, but it happened to me using a computer. The backend also shouldn't care what device you're using. Since this seems to be a backend bug.

edit (sorry, lol): maybe it's because we both were trying to reply to the same comment using reply on another page

And I commented first and you commented after me

Can't confirm now since I'm on my way to somewhere but maybe that's indeed how to reproduce it :)

I'll send you some extra sats in that case

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @carlosfandango 6 Sep 2023

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20 sats \ 0 replies \ @ek 6 Sep 2023

You are welcome. One team - one dream.

That's the spirit! But I would write it the other way around, lol: One dream - one team :)

I was only wondering as the replies to posts get very compressed to the right hand side of my screen around 9/10 comments in. I only use SN on a mobile.

Yeah, noticed the same. You'd have to click on the timestamp of a comment to make it the root to fix that.

Not sure if there's a better way

reply on another page

10 sats \ 21 replies \ @ek 6 Sep 2023

this is getting out of hand, lol

we already have 67% of the comments from yesterday

and it's only been 31 minutes, lol

if we keep this pace, there will be 3456 comments until the next daily discussion

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @carlosfandango 6 Sep 2023

Really? Though it might be more. And I don’t even comment that much.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @nemo 6 Sep 2023

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0 sats \ 18 replies \ @nemo 6 Sep 2023

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1469 sats \ 17 replies \ @ek 6 Sep 2023

let's blame @orthwyrm because of this comment, lol

edit: or maybe bot blame @orthwyrm

depending on the amount of top level cowboy comments, the snail has to check a lot of comments to find the fastest cowboy, lol

edit 2: ah no, it can just sort by recent, lol

10 sats \ 11 replies \ @carlosfandango 6 Sep 2023

Can we stop the editing. Making me look like even more of a muppet!

10 sats \ 10 replies \ @ek 6 Sep 2023

sorry, had to edit my comment again because there was a typo :)

10 sats \ 8 replies \ @carlosfandango 6 Sep 2023

That was more than a typo edit…. Lol

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10 sats \ 0 replies \ @nemo 6 Sep 2023

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0 sats \ 3 replies \ @carlosfandango 6 Sep 2023

I don’t think that’s the issue - because no one would comment past the first post would they? It’s just fun to spend time with similarly minded people

10 sats \ 2 replies \ @ek 6 Sep 2023

i don't understand what you mean, my mind is already spinning, lol

10 sats \ 0 replies \ @carlosfandango 6 Sep 2023

Did I say similarly? I must have meant simple minded…

…(just joking)

reply on another page

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @nemo 6 Sep 2023

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reply on another page

10 sats \ 0 replies \ @nemo 6 Sep 2023

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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @nemo 6 Sep 2023

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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @ek 6 Sep 2023

why can you and @carlosfandango consistently trigger the bug but not me? lol

10 sats \ 10 replies \ @nemo 6 Sep 2023

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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @ek 6 Sep 2023

and btw, "architects" reminds me about the alien saga

0 sats \ 8 replies \ @ek 6 Sep 2023

I just divided 62 comments by 23 minutes and 23 minutes by 62 comments

0 sats \ 3 replies \ @bitcointerest 6 Sep 2023

Lol. We have a math genius amongst us. I have a riddle for you. https://imgprxy.stacker.news/LEK5GQ6w8CAufDQ0lUt-vZOJdoH8I_oIBEe08EhM5us/rs:fit:600:500:0/g:no/aHR0cHM6Ly9pLmliYi5jby9jaFNtYnR6L0lNRy0yMDIzMDgyNS0xNzAwNDAuanBn

594 sats \ 1 reply \ @Undisciplined 6 Sep 2023

4 if those are all the same 2 eggs

6 if we take the present tense seriously

21 sats \ 0 replies \ @bitcointerest 6 Sep 2023

You're first answer is correct. You have 4 eggs left after you ate the 2 eggs.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @nemo 6 Sep 2023

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10 sats \ 3 replies \ @nemo 6 Sep 2023

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0 sats \ 2 replies \ @ek 6 Sep 2023

I also noticed the amount of comments in the thread need to be even for a reverse thread.

So it must be like this:

A > B > A > B

not A > B > A > B > A

And this thread is already broken, since I replied twice to a comment of yours, lol

edit: wait ... I am dumb.

A > B > A > B > A

would work but not

A > B > A > B

since you can mirror the above but not the bottom one. Or B has to write what A has written

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @nemo 6 Sep 2023

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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @nemo 6 Sep 2023

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740 sats \ 15 replies \ @ek 6 Sep 2023

so many ideas: maybe there should be a bounty for the best daily comment

or maybe not, idk, lol

10 sats \ 10 replies \ @bitcointerest 6 Sep 2023

You can start your target practice on this comment ;)

0 sats \ 2 replies \ @ek 6 Sep 2023

ahh, you destroyed my attempt of starting a reverse thread haha

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @nemo 6 Sep 2023

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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @ek 6 Sep 2023

okay, i see, we could keep commenting here until the next daily discussion

I have to actually continue with my life now :)

10 sats \ 6 replies \ @nemo 6 Sep 2023

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0 sats \ 5 replies \ @ek 6 Sep 2023

i'll zap the one who has less zaps :) now you need to zap each other

0 sats \ 3 replies \ @bitcointerest 6 Sep 2023

No one zap this comment. I'm testing something new out.

5 sats \ 1 reply \ @ek 6 Sep 2023

what were you testing btw?

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @bitcointerest 7 Sep 2023

Lol. Nothing. I was using reverse psychology on your comment above. I guess @nemo and I won because we got the least amount of zaps :)

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @nemo 6 Sep 2023

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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @nemo 6 Sep 2023

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0 sats \ 3 replies \ @nemo 6 Sep 2023

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21 sats \ 2 replies \ @ek 6 Sep 2023

so many ideas: maybe there should be a bounty for the best daily comment

or maybe not, idk, lol

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @nemo 6 Sep 2023

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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @ek 6 Sep 2023

Too many comments to zap here

514 sats \ 22 replies \ @ek 6 Sep 2023

Aaaaah, it's still 11:59 on my clock!

569 sats \ 21 replies \ @bitcointerest 6 Sep 2023

Lol. Better change the time on that clock.

20 sats \ 11 replies \ @ek 6 Sep 2023

It's the clock on my computer, it should be synchronized using NTP

Maybe SN has to provide their own NTP server to make it a fair game, lol :)

20 sats \ 10 replies \ @bitcointerest 6 Sep 2023

The time should sync automatically if you're linked to the internet.

20 sats \ 9 replies \ @ek 6 Sep 2023

Well, that's the thing: I was linked to the internet the whole time.

I think there is really some difference between SN time and my time.

Since I sometimes see comments posted in the future, lol:

https://imgprxy.stacker.news/4e0uvlncHorTKDhILFoORI5rMb1sojJ3xT1_dhbQ-bw/rs:fit:600:500:0/g:no/aHR0cHM6Ly9pLnBvc3RpbWcuY2MvcnluUXJ5aFgvMjAyMy0wOS0wNi0xMjA1MjQtMjQxeDI1LXNjcm90LnBuZw

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @carlosfandango 6 Sep 2023

I am wondering the same thing. I think I am around 7s out.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @ek 6 Sep 2023

Ok, to be fair, I think NTP was indeed not enabled on my computer.

I forgot it's not installed by default on Arch Linux

0 sats \ 6 replies \ @bitcointerest 6 Sep 2023

Lol. What's the price of Bitcoin in the future?

0 sats \ 2 replies \ @ek 6 Sep 2023

You have to tell me, person from the future :)

10 sats \ 1 reply \ @bitcointerest 6 Sep 2023

Lmao. Shit you're right. I'm from the future. Bitcoin price right now: $25740

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0 sats \ 2 replies \ @nemo 6 Sep 2023

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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @bitcointerest 6 Sep 2023

Could be better, to be honest.

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20 sats \ 8 replies \ @nemo 6 Sep 2023

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569 sats \ 7 replies \ @bitcointerest 6 Sep 2023

Lol. Yes, Bitcoin fixes the time.

20 sats \ 5 replies \ @ek 6 Sep 2023

maybe the daily discussion should be based on the timechain? So every 144 blocks, a daily discussion thread is posted? :)

Not sure if that would be really awesome or really bad, lol

20 sats \ 1 reply \ @bitcointerest 6 Sep 2023

That would be too unpredictable. The predictable nature of the daily discussion thread makes it fun and exciting.

20 sats \ 0 replies \ @ek 6 Sep 2023

Shouldn't be too unpredictable

And I thought perhaps it's more exciting to look at mempool.space until the block is found which should get more and more likely as time passes

But yeah, not sure about the idea :) You have a point!

10 sats \ 2 replies \ @nemo 6 Sep 2023

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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @ek 6 Sep 2023

So every 144 posts, a new daily discussion appears? lol

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @nemo 6 Sep 2023

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reply on another page

20 sats \ 0 replies \ @nemo 6 Sep 2023

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10 sats \ 6 replies \ @siggy47 6 Sep 2023

Beware the Jabberwock

20 sats \ 0 replies \ @carlosfandango 6 Sep 2023

The jaws that bite, the claws that scratch…

20 sats \ 4 replies \ @bitcointerest 6 Sep 2023

What's a Jabberwock?

0 sats \ 3 replies \ @siggy47 6 Sep 2023

A foul, loathsome creature

514 sats \ 2 replies \ @bitcointerest 6 Sep 2023

Sounds scary. I hope I never have to see a Jabberwock in person.

20 sats \ 1 reply \ @carlosfandango 6 Sep 2023

It’s gone now.. ‘The vorpal blade went snicker-snack! He left it dead, and with its head He went galumphing back.’

10 sats \ 0 replies \ @siggy47 6 Sep 2023

What a relief!

21 sats \ 3 replies \ @carlosfandango 6 Sep 2023

Mr Snail?

514 sats \ 2 replies \ @bitcointerest 6 Sep 2023

Lol. Almost had me.

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @carlosfandango 6 Sep 2023

Next time…..

10 sats \ 0 replies \ @bitcointerest 6 Sep 2023

Definitely.

10.1k sats \ 6 replies \ @bitcointerest 6 Sep 2023

Keeping my longest cowboy streak going until __@_'-' reaches its destination: 18

784 sats \ 5 replies \ @orthwyrm 6 Sep 2023

__@_'-'

71 sats \ 4 replies \ @bitcointerest 6 Sep 2023

Thank you very much. I was feeling a bit down today but this thread got me feeling better and now you made my day even way better. I appreciate you and everyone in this thread.