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Bitcoin without Lightning is not too much. Lightning was the natural evolving of Bitcoin. If today you take out LN from Bitcoin, will be almost useless. These two must be together.
I understand broadly on a technical level what the two concepts are and how they relate. The point I'm making is that this logo will start appearing in a lot of places, so it needs to be clear exactly what it is. I'm not convinced that a logo that's basically just the Bitcoin logo with a lightning bolt through it is the best way of representing this.
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fair enough
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imo if LN wasnt developed, there would be people trying to do MUCH more on base layer, the fact that LN is being built out, allowed some of the 'weight' to be taken off the base layer.
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This i totally agree with. BTC's demise was imminent until lightning took off and started to integrate into daily shopping/purchases. On-chain btc is behind the times and lets be real, no one in today's crypto world wants to pay a fee and then hope they're in the next mined block. They want guarantees, free or virtually free transactions, and efficiency.