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4232 sats \ 24 comments \ @TonyGiorgio 29 Mar 2023 nostr

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693 sats \ 2 replies \ @k00b 29 Mar 2023

Now we just have to convert @janetyellen

308 sats \ 0 replies \ @TonyGiorgio OP 29 Mar 2023

Never gonna happen. There needs to be at least one nay sayer out there.

1 sat \ 0 replies \ @janetyellen 30 Mar 2023

Wen mute button for nostr content on stacker news?

175 sats \ 1 reply \ @DarthCoin 30 Mar 2023

Well said. Thank you again for a nice writeup again. I am kinda in same position like you. I am not interested in the "social media" part of nostr, but more into using it with tools for merchants (see the latest extensions of lnbits - nostr market). Zaps and shitposting on nostr clients is not the real use case for nostr.

173 sats \ 0 replies \ @02d769cb73 30 Mar 2023

This recent post may be relevant for you -

#158016

174 sats \ 4 replies \ @9ener1c 30 Mar 2023

Excellent post.

It seems to me that you can try a top down approach with specs, but it only succeeds if the spec is relatively straightforward and digestible. Most NIPs for Nostr are like this, and thus see broad adoption in clients.

If a spec is unavoidably complex, it's imperative to create high quality, easy to use implementations that sidestep the inevitable lack of adoption that would otherwise occur.

5 sats \ 3 replies \ @9ener1c 30 Mar 2023

There is of course also monetary incentives as a third option, but that mostly belongs in shitcoin land, not here :)

10 sats \ 2 replies \ @xanny 30 Mar 2023

Idk, getting sats for posting stuff on the internet is pretty fucking cool even if it's not big money.

1 sat \ 1 reply \ @9ener1c 30 Mar 2023

Hehe, can't argue with that :)

I'm really referring to the shitcoin tokens with huge pre-mines, which include tens of millions of dollars in funding for marketing, which is used partially to pay-third party developers to adopt and promote their scam.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @xanny 31 Mar 2023

Yeah I know what you're referring to, and agree, all these DAOs are shady af. It's ICOs 2.0.

I'm just pointing out us bitcoiners have our own (much less shady and corrupt) version of a monetary incentive to use a platform :)

But those shitcoin airdrops can have their uses. I recently got the ARB airdrop, immediately dumped it for $2.6k, converted it to stables, and used it to DCA more BTC.

Perfect timing too given the dip earlier this week!

173 sats \ 2 replies \ @m00ninite 30 Mar 2023

The idea that Nostr survives this while still being built on top of the same cancerous system that has centralized the Internet is still a joke. However, I'll learn to enjoy it and take advantage of it while I can. Maybe we can make some iterative progress in making the Internet a bit more decentralized.

I was having this same thought the other day about nostr centralization. I'm of the belief that centralization followed by decentralization is a pattern that will just keep repeating itself.

Web 1 (decentralized) -> Web 2 (centralized) -> nostr (decentralized) -> nostr2?

Maybe each time we go through this process, we get just a little bit better at avoiding centralization forces

1 sat \ 1 reply \ @captain_stacks 30 Mar 2023

I don't agree with the fatalistic outlook. With each iteration, we get better tools for decentralization. How we use them is a choice in our hands.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @xanny 31 Mar 2023

Exactly. And with Nostr, even though it is not built on a whole new protocol, it is still truly decentralised. It is loosely comparable to Tor. A load of data being bounced around nodes using cryptography for privacy and authentication.

Compare to Mastodon, which isn't really decentralised in any meaningful way. Yes on a technical level it has interoperability between instances but... that's it. It's deliberately not designed for censorship resistance because the CEO likes censorship. And yes, it's a company with a CEO, it is a product from a corporation.

The UX is terrible and you have to sign up to a specific instance. Once you do, by giving it an email and password like any other social media, the admin of it decides what you can and can't see from the rest of the "fediverse," Censorship is rampant, and if they get bored and stop paying their hosting bill you lose everything.

And yet that's the "decentralised" platform the media is focusing on, lmao.

Nostr is what decentralised social media should be. It shows you can base a decentralised platform on existing infrastructure without compromising privacy and censorship resistance.

Onboarding is frictionless and anonymous, and the feature set is being built out organically by the community according to their needs.

Since Nostr started getting big I honestly barely even check the bird app anymore.

Wrote a whole post on my self-hosted Nostr powered blog about this last night.

173 sats \ 0 replies \ @02777e5262 30 Mar 2023

Excellent story. And thanks for including your npub at the end - Followed on nostr

172 sats \ 0 replies \ @rheedi0 30 Mar 2023

I thought this was great @TonyGiorigo. My initial impulse was to find a zap button on the blog post itself to show some appreciation. Thankfully I've found that capability here on SN ⚡️

172 sats \ 0 replies \ @kr 29 Mar 2023

thanks for the nuanced write-up!

100 sats \ 1 reply \ @benthecarman 30 Mar 2023

Cant wait for next months blog Embracing AI: My Journey from Skeptic to Advocate

326 sats \ 0 replies \ @TonyGiorgio OP 30 Mar 2023

I was just going to call it "Nostr" but ChatGPT suggested I change it to that.

100 sats \ 0 replies \ @siggy47 29 Mar 2023

Great read. Thanks

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @fred 1 Apr 2023

When the solve relay lapses then Nostr will become the mainstream social media

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @janetyellen 30 Mar 2023

Nostr sucks

0 sats \ 2 replies \ @faithandcredit 30 Mar 2023

primal.net is doing some controversial stuff with nostr imo. for example new users can choose to see jacks timeline or dergigi, its something other social networks dont offer. but it also seems controversial to invade peoples privacy like that and just share their timelines publically..

24 sats \ 0 replies \ @TonyGiorgio OP 30 Mar 2023

Technically all nostr clients have that ability I think. You just put in their npub and based on their following list and event notifications, you'll see what they do (minus encrypted dm's).

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @9ener1c 30 Mar 2023

Nah, it's accepted as a feature of the system, and even encouraged.

Regardless, if you want a private experience, you can create another identify.