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how much would you pay for a wireguard tunnel that gives you a public static IP?
14.5k sats \ 25 comments \ @andy 21 Mar 2023 bitcoin
How much would you pay per month for a wireguard tunnel that provides you a dedicated public static IPv4 address? This would be a raw IP address at the internet protocol layer, so you could run any service on it.
Payments would be over lightning using a service that runs on your machine that automatically pays.You could also make manual payments via a web interface if you don't want to install a service. However, what I'm envisioning is something as simple as running
sudo apt install staticIP
to install the service and then suddenly your machine automatically has a public static IPv4 address. The address would be the same regardless of the internet connection you are on, even when you are behind a firewall, as long as your lightning node has enough capacity to pay for the tunnel's lease and you haven't uninstalled the service or left the machine powered off for a long time.
If you wanted to also install this on separate computers from your lightning node, you'd just need to edit a config file to give the service an lndconnect: URL in order to allow the service to connect to your node and send the lease payments for each additional IP address.
10,000 sats/month38.5%
20,000 sats/month46.2%
30,000 sats/month0.0%
40,000 sats/month0.0%
50,000 sats/month15.4%
60,000 sats/month0.0%
70,000 sats/month0.0%
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5398 sats \ 1 reply \ @Winitober 22 Mar 2023
Just a helpful comment for OP. PIA has this service available and I think they have a few connection option including the wireguard protocol.
https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/vpn-features/dedicated-ip-vpn
For comparison purposes this is what they charge. Note that they also claim the ability to unlink your IP from the dedicated VPN’s IP.
$12/mo for a month to month $2/mo for a three year commitment paid in advance.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @andy OP 22 Mar 2023
There are a number of companies that offer a wireguard tunnel that provides you a dedicated public static IPv4 address. However, the key thing that I'm trying to assess the demand for is a service that allows for automated payments with lightning with no account setup or ultra obnoxious web interface required. If you can lead me to a service that provides a dedicated public static IPv4 address with the ability to do automated setup and payments with lightning, I'd be really curious to know about it.
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6279 sats \ 4 replies \ @SovranSystems 22 Mar 2023
Would port forwarding work? (443, 80, etc) If so, I might add it as a feature on my Sovran Pro.
Could you also build it for NixOS?
Sounds like a great idea.
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3 sats \ 1 reply \ @andy OP 22 Mar 2023
There wouldn't really need to be port forwarding because you would have a dedicated raw public IP address and could serve any service you want.
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5585 sats \ 0 replies \ @SovranSystems 22 Mar 2023
Sounds fantastic!
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3 sats \ 1 reply \ @andy OP 22 Mar 2023
NixOS would definitely be part of the plan if this is pursued, I just wanted to keep this post simple and show the Debian install command.
Also, very cool to just learn about Sovran_SystemsOS. Looks very clean!
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6440 sats \ 0 replies \ @SovranSystems 22 Mar 2023
Ah this is good to hear! And, yes thanks OP for checking out Sovran_SystemsOS!
If you get this running, I would be happy to pay with stats over LN.
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10 sats \ 2 replies \ @franzap 22 Mar 2023
Def would pay sats for this
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @andy OP 22 Mar 2023
okay, but how much?
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10 sats \ 0 replies \ @franzap 22 Mar 2023
~$5/month in sats
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10 sats \ 2 replies \ @shyfire 22 Mar 2023
I pay what tunnelsats charges.
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @andy OP 22 Mar 2023
Does tunnelsats provide you with a full IP address? From what they told me, they only offer a few specific TCP ports on a shared IP address and that's it.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @shyfire 23 Mar 2023
Ah, I misread your post. I thought you were looking to launch a similar service, but I see you would be offering dedicated IP addresses that could be used for anything. That is indeed something I would consider.
If the migration away from tunnelsats was simple, I'd probably pay double what I'm paying for this, since I'd use it to expose services on my Embassy. In theory, would need to do some testing.
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @Entrep 22 Mar 2023
I'm a fan of dynamic IP
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @andy OP 22 Mar 2023
One thing to note, since this is a tunnel that I'm proposing, you would still have your original IP, and if that is dynamic, you could route outbound traffic through that and only use the static IP for incoming remote connections. You'll have two IP addresses to use what they are each best for.
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0 sats \ 9 replies \ @sime 22 Mar 2023
You mean like lnvpn.cpm or tunnelsats.com ?
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0 sats \ 8 replies \ @andy OP 22 Mar 2023
Don't know what lnvpn.cpm is, can you provide a link?
As mentioned above, tunnelsats.com does not provide a dedicated public static IPv4 address.
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0 sats \ 7 replies \ @sancristrader 22 Mar 2023
https://lnvpn.com/
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0 sats \ 6 replies \ @andy OP 22 Mar 2023
https://lnvpn.com/ does not provide a dedicated public static IPv4 address.
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10 sats \ 5 replies \ @m00ninite 22 Mar 2023
Check out plebvpn. We've already done this. If you'd like to contribute to the code to help streamline it for users, we could use the help :)
Currently it's only built as an extension to raspiblitz, but it does the automatic payment stuff you're talking about, as well as handling split tunneling (tor/VPN
https://github.com/allyourbankarebelongtous/Pleb-VPN
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0 sats \ 4 replies \ @andy OP 22 Mar 2023
Interesting, but does this give a dedicated public static IPv4 address? From what I read, it seems to be a shared IPv4 address and you are only providing access to a few TCP ports and UDP is not even allowed?
Why are using OpenVPN and wireguard, why not just use wireguard for everything?
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10 sats \ 3 replies \ @m00ninite 22 Mar 2023
Indeed you don't get your own IP unless you set the server up that way.
Youll have to ask allyourbank about the ovpn/wireguard thing, I'm not sure what the reasoning was. The server side is pivpn/based, which supports both
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10 sats \ 2 replies \ @m00ninite 22 Mar 2023
I think it's in the interest of being flexible
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