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It's like asking when all the Bitcoin seed phrases will be generated and we'll start to see wallet collisions is my understanding. I.e. never. It's just really hard for the brain to understand what big numbers can be generated from such a small data set, once extrapolating out exponentials.
Well, but with seed phrases they are all presumably just as good as the other. In chess, I assume the vast majority of possible moves are not relevant.
The question is: how limited are the forms of games that are exciting and interesting to watch? I assume that many games at tournaments are actual small variations on quite similar games. They aren't really that new...even if the exact sequence of moves has never been done before.
sort of right... But interestingly, almost every tournament players bring some novelty twist on move 15 in the Spanish opening or whatever.
I imagine there are still, and will always be, immortal games to find. But you're probably right in that the low hanging fruit is likely all gone. So it may be that such a game is played once every million games(?) rather than in the old days where every 1000(?) may have produced a classic? That's my hypothesis, anyway. Zero data to back it up.
Slightly less... Chess moved can be stupid, where's any seed phrase is as good as another
Do you ever wonder at what point all the actually elite games in chess will have been played? Or, is the space big enough that even excluding all the shitty moves, there are still immortal games lurking out there?
I'm not much of a chess player, so I wouldn't know. But I do know that this hope, this electricity of excitement I remember from the first time I read The Rifles or East of Eden or watched One Cut of the Dead or The Matrix or the first time I encountered any great story for the first time -- that I'm still jonesing after it. I am willing to risk reading some shitty writing or hanging out with mediocrity occasionally in order to find something new. It's not enough that there are great stories. I want new great stories.
I wonder if llms will deliver this as I'm sure they have delivered new great games in chess. If llms become capable of producing elite stories, will we still enjoy them? Or will we refuse to listen, no matter how awesome they are, because if we turn our ear that way it all becomes insipid?
I agree that the elites of any craft are worth our time. But at least in the realm of stories, I am quite confident that we haven't seen all the good games yet. So that keeps me mucking about in the sty and even occasionally peeking at the slop and happy to be there.
Also: I really dig it when you write like this. There's a little electric buzz.