tl;dr - self custody is so important. It still poses lots of challenges to the surveillance state even though they are trying to lock it down.
These bastards can write something like this:
legitimate actors may also change their choice of payment instrument to the least intermediated and monitored option if they have concerns about their privacy or doubts about their privacy or doubts about their intermediaries’ ability and willingness to protect their payments data.
And still act like self custody is a problem.
They've built a system that only works because of intermediaries
implementation of AML/CFT measures generally relies on the existence of trusted intermediaries, or “obliged entities”, that intermediate in transactions on behalf of their customers and act as gatekeepers. In this intermediary role, these entities are in a unique position to screen customers, monitor transactions and report suspicious transactions to financial intelligence units.
Is it really so hard for them to imagine that perfectly normal people don't like being treated like criminals?
Complaining about how difficult it is to track cash payments, they say:
the physical nature of cash is likely to impose, by design, practical limitations on its usefulness for illicit purposes, which may cap the associated societal costs. Physical cash is often cumbersome and less portable than digital forms of money, making it impractical for large transactions, risky to store and transport, and time-consuming.
It's news to me that cash was designed to place limits on its usefulness.
Hence, we hypothesise that, in the absence of additional or alternative AML/CFT measures, self-hosted crypto payments present the lowest probability of detection and enforcement after cash.
Yes.
They acknowledge that people don't like others snooping on them and that the AML/CFT regime is an imposition on everybody. But they justify it as a "public good."
to address this trade-off, AML/CFT frameworks are generally implemented alongside strong data privacy measures.
This is laughable. To call any data privacy measures "strong" in the era of frequent billion-record hacks and leaks is stupid.
They describe very nicely how the scope of financial surveillance has only expanded (and dramatically so) since the 1990s.
There are some interesting notes about gift cards and how they are treated in the European regime.
Overall, a noticeable feature is that the regulatory approach for self-hosted cryptoasset wallets differs from that applied to cash (Section 3.2). In both cases, there is no intermediary that is well placed to act as an obliged entity. For cash, the main regulatory response has been the introduction of transaction limits, while similar limits have not been introduced for self-hosted cryptoassets. Following the discussion in Section 2, this may provide an incentive for malicious actors to shift from cash to self-hosted cryptoasset wallets.
It's amazing that even though their citizens want freedom from financial surveillance:
Consultations conducted by the ECB and the European Commission have shown that European citizens have a clear preference for a high level of privacy and that they favour privacy-enhancing features such as the ability to conceal the identity of the payer and the payee (ECB (2020), ECB (2021), EC (2023)) (see Graph 3). However, in the effort to strike the right balance between privacy and integrity, the ECB clarified that “full anonymity is not considered a viable option from a public policy perspective” (ECB (2022c)). Therefore, the DigEuro-Reg provides a bespoke AML/CFT framework for offline
This is so galling: apparently the bastards I'm charge believe that the people who elected them don't know what's best for them and should be ignored.
So here's what they propose for self custody:
conceivable regulatory options can apply consistently across payment instruments without intermediaries. First, for all instruments in this group, AML/CFT frameworks can leverage touch points, or entry/exit points, where illicit funds interact with those intermediaries in the first group of instruments, while acknowledging that this is a partial solution as it only allows for the monitoring of incoming and outgoing transactions.23 Examples of such touch points include cash withdrawals or deposits with commercial banks and the conversion between self-hosted stablecoins and commercial bank deposits or e-money.
Next, AML/CFT frameworks could involve entities/actors other than intermediaries for each instrument. The clearest example is cash, for which transaction limits have been imposed on payers and payees. One option involves imposing a uniform transaction limit across instruments to mitigate the waterbed effect, although enforceability challenges vary by instrument.
For example, transaction limits can be programmed into the design of an offline CBDC } and protocols and/or smart contracts on DLTs, ensuring compliance by default. While applying transaction limits to self-hosted cryptoassets is technically feasible, enforcing such requirements would likely prove challenging. Still, enforcing transaction limits for cash payments presents even greater challenges, primarily due to their anonymous and non-electronic nature.
A stronger emphasis could be placed on the responsibilities of and enforcement by the issuers of payment instruments. As issuers of banknotes, central banks have a role to play, as illustrated by the decision of the Eurosystem to discontinue the issuance of EUR 500 notes in 2019 to address AML/CFT concerns. Similarly, stablecoin issuers have complied with requests from authorities to freeze the coins in self-hosted wallets associated with illicit activities.
Another complementary approach for addressing the challenges associated with payment instruments without intermediaries could involve increasing the costs associated with non-compliance for private-sector issuers, payers, payees and entities that provide services or a platform for settling cryptoasset transactions, especially those engaged in professional activities.25 These exemplify the possible roles of lex specialis in addressing individual instrument characteristics.
All in all, this is a very frustrating read. I find it hard to believe that there are people who seriously buy in to the nanny state so deeply that they dismiss the risks of such state control so lightly.
Why is it so hard to say,
A. We want the most convenient, private, and secure means of payment possible, that doesn't require us to trust intermediaries.
B. We also want to deter crime.
C. The way to get (B) is to actually prosecute the crime, and not to force us to use a bad payments system.
oh man, BEAUTIFUL!
I think that that's your bubble reflecting back on you from its outer membrane. Normieland doesn't think like you or me. We're kinda crazy from their perspective. Or in my case... insane.
I know that you are right.
I have a brother in law who is a lawyer. Every time we talk about financial surveillance, I come away feeling like I have made such extreme statements as to be rude or insane. I say things like "I don't want anyone to know how much money I have" and by his face it seems like I have said "I am trying to commit tax fraud."
But I hope it's like the organic food movement. In the 80s in the US, organic was fringe and hippie. Now it's everywhere. For decades people lightly dismissed the risks of spraying chemicals all over their food, but eventually they came round.
Unfortunately, we had already built a food system that is largely irreparable -- my shallow understanding of food in the US is that organic is not really that much better than pesticide-laced. And all the second-order effects are already set in motion (monsanto seeds, small scale growers are disadvantaged, etc).
Which I think means I'm demonstrating your point. And now I'm sad.
There are two responses, sadness or anger, right? Slowly, we will all either become depressed or turn into DarthCoin.
There's also
drive, to fix things.nym checks out
I try sometimes.
Didn't mean to make you sad! But nevertheless, here's a nice 12 Monkeys clip:
need to watch that again.
Everything is laid out over a layer of fear: "don't do that, it's a crime," "that's how criminals act." The average law-abiding reader, well-conditioned by the narrative, sees any mention of crime and doesn't even continue; after all, they don't want to be a criminal. They don't even rationalize what is being said.
why bitcoin doesn't fix the latter 2:
Wait am I dumb what is the blue globe symbol
I didn't write that part but I'm quite sure it's the interwebz
Lol
The problem is 99% of people are totally asleep 😴 and they'd get swept along into a cbdc system without realising it
Someone like Darth gets upset because the 1% that are awake are not as awake as he'd like
But the 99% are cooked and that doesn't look good for us 😢
Unless you can come up with some positive points 👉
The BIS would be such an awesome place to work. Bitcoiners should offer a 401k match or something.
The regulatory framing reveals something fundamental about power dynamics. They're essentially saying "if you make the trusted layer untrustworthy enough, people will opt out entirely"—and treating that outcome as a policy failure rather than an inevitable consequence of their approach. In my years of following this space, I've watched the surveillance ratchet tighten while simultaneously driving more adoption of self-custody practices. The document you're citing proves they understand the causal link but can't accept the premise that privacy might be a legitimate concern. That's the real tell—they're not trying to balance surveillance with privacy; they're trying to eliminate the choice itself.
The comparison with cash is revealing. They admit cash is hard to surveil. They admit that for that reason it naturally limits some types of criminal activity. They then treat that as almost an accidental blessing rather than as a feature of a system that gives individuals offline freedom. The direction of travel is clear. Cash is an anomaly from a control perspective. Digital is where they can get the visibility they want. So they phase out the large notes and lay the groundwork for digital instruments that can be capped monitored and in extremis turned off.
The part about citizens clearly preferring privacy and the ECB explicitly saying full anonymity is not a viable option is the purest expression of the gap. People are told the system is democratic responsive consultative. They are consulted and say we want strong privacy including concealing the identity of payer and payee. The response is essentially thank you for your input but your preference is not compatible with our policy goals. That is not a balance between privacy and integrity. It is a pre determined outcome dressed up as a trade off.
On self custody they are already thinking in terms of choke points and compulsion. If they cannot put the hook directly into the wallet they will put it around every bridge into and out of that wallet. Banks exchanges merchants platforms. Make every gateway an enforcement node. And where there is no natural intermediary you add synthetic ones. Transaction limits coded into money itself obligations on issuers obligations on service providers penalties on payers and payees once they cross into any kind of professional or business activity.
Stablecoin issuers freezing addresses and central banks discontinuing high denomination notes are not random isolated events in this framework. They are early moves in a long game that converges on a world where financial privacy is narrow brittle and conditional. You can have some privacy until and unless it conflicts with the objectives of the system. That is very different from having privacy as a default and surveillance as an exception that requires due process.
The real question that never gets asked in these papers is simple. What is the end state. If you follow their logic all the way down what does the world look like. It looks like this. Most value sits on ledgers operated by large regulated intermediaries who are deputized as compliance agents. Self custody still exists but is progressively corralled by limits by controls on on and off ramps by reputational pressure and by criminalization at the edges. Cash shrinks. Offline options diminish. Programmable instruments expand. Monitoring becomes more real time. The ability to sit outside the system becomes more costly and marginal.
Once you see that trajectory you understand why self custody matters so much. Not because it is perfect not because it eliminates risk or crime but because it preserves a technical and social space where the ability to transact is not entirely contingent on the good will of a handful of institutions and agencies.
If we actually cared about proportionality we would be asking different questions. How much crime reduction do you really get at the margin from ever more invasive surveillance. How much democratic risk do you introduce by building permanent infrastructures of financial control that can be repurposed by future governments with very different values. What happens when these tools migrate from AML and terrorism to everyday political and social enforcement. None of that appears in their calculus.