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Exactly. Presidents have pushed and pushed over decades. Honestly, going back to the Civil war at least. Lincoln wasn't kept in check. People get hung up on the issue of that day, slavery just as people get caught up with issues today and miss the longer term consequences.

When you read history, not that crap they tell you in school you realize that everyone is a hypocrite and really only care about abuse of power when they are the victim. That is how this drift happens.

Obama is the best example in recent memory. He ran against the Bush era abuses of power allowed after 9/11. He promised he'd roll it back. Instead he did the same things all be it in a more sly and less obvious way. There were even stories in the NYT about how as Obama was leaving office his fearful of what would be done with these power by the incoming Trump admin.

Its almost comical. Today Trump fans are running victory laps in regards to Trump's executive actions. What happens with the other side comes back to power. They will roll many things back. They will have support to do equally extreme (to the right) actions.

Its all so tiresome.

he did the same things all be it in a more sly and less obvious way.

I think it was only less obvious because the media was on his side and didn't focus on it. I was well aware of how he escalated basically everything the left criticized Bush for and felt like the only thing that changed was people didn't care anymore.

I hadn't really made the connection, but this Trump term does feel similar to Obama's first term. Yeah, some of us actually believed the things we said we believed and won't pretend otherwise just because a politician flip-flopped.

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Yeah, the media was a huge factor

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