The Trump administration says that it will sell Venezuelan oil at market prices and oversee the allocation of the proceeds.
Trump framed it as a new presidential revenue stream:This Oil will be sold at its Market Price, and that money will be controlled by me, as President of the United States of America, to ensure it is used to benefit the people of Venezuela and the United States!
Having already demonstrated a disregard for Congress’s power of the purse, the president’s “controlled by me” framing raised eyebrows. The executive branch can administer programs and executive laws, but it generally cannot create a new source of funding and then decide how to spend it.
The Miscellaneous Receipts Act stipulates that if the government receives money, it must be deposited into the Treasury, not some custom-made account for discretionary presidential use. So if Venezuela’s oil is sold and the proceeds are treated as money the US government has received, then why wouldn’t it go to the Treasury?
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Congress created this monster by abdicating so many of their powers. Now, they probably can't act as much of a brake.
This is sadly a structural issue. They misjudged in the 1780s the influence the Executive could exercise on Congress and the willingness of people to pass the responsibility buck onto another. The Executive is incentivized to say, I'll take care of it, it's on me, and Congress is incentivized to avoid responsibility, and thus accountability to their voters, by conceding. There was meant to be a balance, but in practice it's like a Father-Son relationship, where the Son technically has the power to say "No," but—it's Dad.
(By "they" I don't mean the Anti-Federalists, who did see the centralization of Executive power and Congress's abdication of responsibility as an eventual issue. But it all sounds so abstract when you're thinking about possibilities more than a century in the future.)
boy is that every the truth. Same goes for California legislature. This is why there's a proposition system in California. Anything too risky for the legislature is kicked to the masses. Then groups manipulate the foolish distracted public.
If anything that risks upsetting the system gets through the courts kick it. Sometimes they don't even allow things to get on the ballet. Prop 9 (Three States Initiative) is the classic example. Watching that play out was the final nail in the coffin for me on California's conservatives getting a clue.
by "they", who do you mean?
also, could you recommend where I could learn more? my next step after posting this reply will be to pass your comment to a robot and get some details from that, and I'd be curious to hear your recommendations about where to learn more
The Federalist side of the Constitutional Convention in 1787. Get yourself this book —
— and read both sides of the debates. Both sides had valid perspectives, but you'll see the Anti-Federalist criticisms (which have been de-emphasized in American textbooks ever since) have been largely vindicated by subsequent U.S. history. They were very worried about the "strong central government" and felt the critiques of the Articles of Confederation were being exaggerated to serve a centralizing agenda.
I'll post some things that the robot told me:
Below is a high-density reconstruction of what broke in the 1780s and who argued about it.
(a) State coordination failures under the Articles of Confederation(a) State coordination failures under the Articles of Confederation
Structural causeStructural cause
The Articles of Confederation created a league of sovereign states, not a governing state:
This made collective action nearly impossible.
1. Fiscal collapse (national + state)1. Fiscal collapse (national + state)
Manifestation:
2. Interstate economic warfare2. Interstate economic warfare
States behaved like semi-independent countries:
Manifestation:
3. Inability to provide security3. Inability to provide security
Shays' Rebellion (1786–87)Shays' Rebellion (1786–87)
Elite interpretation:
This terrified property-holders and bondholders.
4. Foreign policy paralysis4. Foreign policy paralysis
Manifestation:
5. Legal incoherence5. Legal incoherence
Manifestation:
Net effectNet effect
The 1780s were perceived (by elites) as:
This is the pressure context behind 1787.
(b) What the Anti-Federalists argued, who they were, and who else mattered(b) What the Anti-Federalists argued, who they were, and who else mattered
Anti-Federalist critique (core themes)Anti-Federalist critique (core themes)
The Anti-Federalists argued:
Many of these warnings map exactly onto modern critiques.
Who were the Anti-Federalists?Who were the Anti-Federalists?
Not a party; a coalition:
They were strongest in:
Federalists (for contrast)Federalists (for contrast)
The Federalists argued:
Key figures:
Their writings (e.g. The Federalist Papers) dominate later interpretation because they won.
Who else was part of the discourse?Who else was part of the discourse?
Beyond the binary:
1. State constitutional thinkers1. State constitutional thinkers
These experiences directly informed both camps.
2. Classical & Enlightenment sources2. Classical & Enlightenment sources
Heavily cited by both sides:
The disagreement was diagnostic, not philosophical.
3. Popular press & pamphleteers3. Popular press & pamphleteers
Compressed synthesisCompressed synthesis
Exactly. Presidents have pushed and pushed over decades. Honestly, going back to the Civil war at least. Lincoln wasn't kept in check. People get hung up on the issue of that day, slavery just as people get caught up with issues today and miss the longer term consequences.
When you read history, not that crap they tell you in school you realize that everyone is a hypocrite and really only care about abuse of power when they are the victim. That is how this drift happens.
Obama is the best example in recent memory. He ran against the Bush era abuses of power allowed after 9/11. He promised he'd roll it back. Instead he did the same things all be it in a more sly and less obvious way. There were even stories in the NYT about how as Obama was leaving office his fearful of what would be done with these power by the incoming Trump admin.
Its almost comical. Today Trump fans are running victory laps in regards to Trump's executive actions. What happens with the other side comes back to power. They will roll many things back. They will have support to do equally extreme (to the right) actions.
Its all so tiresome.
I think it was only less obvious because the media was on his side and didn't focus on it. I was well aware of how he escalated basically everything the left criticized Bush for and felt like the only thing that changed was people didn't care anymore.
I hadn't really made the connection, but this Trump term does feel similar to Obama's first term. Yeah, some of us actually believed the things we said we believed and won't pretend otherwise just because a politician flip-flopped.
Yeah, the media was a huge factor
The one thing I'm really looking forward to in our new Imperial America is to just do away with congress totally.....we no longer need our fake kabuki theater congress critters, send them home.
~lol
Could be worse, when Rome transitioned to Empire from Republic the various emperors had great fun making the now-defunct senate a spectacle for humiliation.
The early historian Suetonius claimed that Caligula "opened a brothel in his palace" staffed by the wives of senators and kept detailed records of all transactions....
Trump might like that idea....
Pax Romana occurred during the period of 5 great emperors
Caligula was Jeffrey Epstein, ahead of his time!
we should nuke the filibuster
Sounds bold but legally shaky since presidents don't get to run their own off book oil fund.
If one steps back from the theater of politics and looks at this proposal through the lens of constitutional procedure the underlying issue is not the oil itself but the precedent it suggests. The United States government is structured in such a way that the power to appropriate funds resides with Congress for a reason. This separation ensures that no single branch can take resources whether foreign or domestic and bypass the checks that keep authority balanced. The Miscellaneous Receipts Act is not a technicality it is one of the statutory guardrails that prevent executive overreach from morphing into something more permanent and far more difficult to reverse.
If Venezuelan oil were sold under US administration the moment those proceeds touched the machinery of our government they would by law fall under protocols designed to preserve accountability. To divert them elsewhere perhaps into a president controlled fund would be to assert a degree of fiscal sovereignty that the Constitution never intended for the executive. Absolute control over income streams independent of Congressional oversight is the kind of power that can rescript the relationship between the branches of government in subtle but profound ways. History shows that when leaders can direct revenue without legislative interference the slide toward personal rule can happen quietly and quickly. In a republic the small breaches of process are often more dangerous than the grand scandals because they normalize the idea that certain rules are optional.
AI is outta control... straight to jail!
https://twiiit.com/WhiteHouse/status/2008691566131769746