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36 sats \ 15 replies \ @ek 12 Dec \ parent \ on: Stacker Saloon
Just because you have enough inbound liquidity doesn’t mean there’s a cheap route to your node
Yes, I know. It just seems weird because we transact almost daily, none of my channels are offline, and this hasn't occurred before. I guess it's just one of those things?
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Could it be that the payment was very small, so the fee ends up being relatively high? Like if they’re trying to send you 10 sats, the fee itself might be 10 sats or something.
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I thought of that, but this transaction is the most sats ever between , or at least close. I don't know. It's also weird that they have stopped trying to resend. It sounds fishy, but they are a big company.
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Maybe their Knots node doesn't handle lightning well ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
(Sorry, I don't really believe that, just thought it would be funny. Whatever you run for onchain shouldn't affect routing on lightning afaik.)
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You might be right😀 I'm sure you guessed the company. I just heard back from them. They said it is not a liquidity issue, as I knew, but that my peers are asking too high fees. Here is their solution:
If possible ask your peers to lower their fees.
Yeah, I'm sure they'll listen to me 😀
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lol, are they not deducting the routing fee from what they send you?
So if you put more of your own nodes between them and your recipient node, you can earn routing fees, also called a fee-siphoning attack?
/cc @optimism
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So if you put more of your own nodes between them and you, you can earn routing fees, also called a fee-siphoning attack?
Yes. If I had time for this, I would currently be man-in-the-middle siphoning between SN and specific custodial wallets with low ppm but high fixed, simply due to all the ad hominem about horse icons.
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But to be fair, only on the route inbound to SN, because SN does deduct the routing fee from the incoming zap amount, and will not forward the payment if it costs too much (receiver ends up with credits instead).
But yeah, it's a good point that when zapping on SN, you don't really see how much you're paying in network fees. You can only tell later when you look into your wallet.
Wallets should have a setting to limit fees, but I think most wallets don't have one, especially if you're zapping via NWC, etc.
simply due to all the ad hominem about horse icons.
also good point, @siggy47 got shamed into revealing his massive cowboy hat 😅
Nice hat you have there, @siggy47, would be a shame if something happened to it!