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I love Nostr, Why do you hate it so much?

912 sats \ 45 comments \ @Oxjogir 4 Feb 2023 nostr

This thread is for people that do not like Nostr. I personally think that Nostr is an amazing protocol and it will help increase LN adoption. I however want to know why some of you guys hates it.

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61 sats \ 2 replies \ @thrown 4 Feb 2023

It’s not really good at anything in particular.

Data permanence? no. Data impermanence? no. Identity management? no. Data propagation? Maybe, if you’re on the same relays as the person you’re trying to reach…

It also wants to be a general purpose protocol but a lot of the NIPs that are getting merged are specifically for the purposes of making a better Twitter replacement protocol. And they won’t be able to compete with At Protocol or Farcaster in that arena because those are not general purpose. Those are only designed to be twitter replacements.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @028559d218 8 Oct 2024

Old post but I'll comment anyway.
Currently nostr is shifted hugely to quantity over quality. Endless endless quantity... with vary sparing quality.

For all I know when I 'access' nostr it's all bots. It's just endless... spam-like content. There's no meat or potatoes... just watered-down dressing if that.

At least stacker news requires a sat to comment... and 100 sats to post. It's a great anti-spam measure and really breeds quality, imo. Quality through competition, through consequence.

Nostr right now is censorship resistance at any cost - just because you can you should. Whereas in the real world just because you can does not mean that you actually should. (Maybe you rando posting on nostr should keep pictures of your cup-of-coffee to yourself because who gives a ****) My critiques could honestly go on and on.

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30 sats \ 5 replies \ @DarthCoin 4 Feb 2023

I do not hate it. Just I am not so excited about, like you.

There are some aspects that people should think about BEFORE jumping in as lemmings.

Is nostr necessary? Yes.
Is nostr useful ? Maybe, depends of each user necessity.
Is nostr and alternative to twatter? I think nostr is much more than twatter. Nostr is a protocol that could be used for many things.

Right now is in a hype phase, like happen with many things. People will jump in just to post their shity useless spam.
Why? Because people are retarded and don't think before using s tool like this.

Many spammers will just think that nostr is their way to reach victims for free and uncensorable.
People today do mot have any morality.

Will take time until nostr will be a very useful tool.
Now, just test it, learn it, post interesting stuff and try not to spam the others.
Don't do to others what others could do to you.
Remember: all your notes on nostr will remain forever recorded, until ALL rrlays will delete them. So in order to post garbage and things without any sense, try posting only interesting things.

To chat with others you have a shit load of other apps. No need to use nostr as your main chat platform.

I have spoken.

0 sats \ 3 replies \ @siggy47 4 Feb 2023

To your point, I translated some chinese text that showed up in my nostr feed this morning:

Female, 24 years old, single, height 167cm, weight 50KG, from Hangzhou. Currently working in Alibaba, responsible for Alipay-related business.
Beautiful and generous, likes reading, fitness, swimming, and eating chicken. Parents are retired, the family does not worship money, and people are pragmatic, and they have never had a suitable boyfriend.
She doesn't ask too much, as long as she is sincerely good to her. Mobilizing relatives and friends, I would like to ask everyone to introduce one, copy the job number: 81178 7058 Alipay home page search visible photos~

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @botsforcash 4 Feb 2023

Boy we've come a long way since ‘Chancellor on the Brink of Second Bailout for Banks’.

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21 sats \ 1 reply \ @siggy47 4 Feb 2023

You may not find too many haters here. Bitcoin and nostr go together like bacon and eggs.

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10 sats \ 3 replies \ @2minutebitcoin 4 Feb 2023

There are a lot of hurdles to overcome, for sure - and the recent Damus App Store approval exploded usage in a negative way - of all the newcomers, maybe just 5-10% are Bitcoiners. Perhaps a similarly small amount are non-spammers.

But the 10% of Bitcoiners that are there are very high signal. Much better than your average Twitter browsing session. There is a newfound sense of community which is very, very valuable.

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @Oxjogir OP 4 Feb 2023

Adding to your point. I have personally spoke with a newcomer on Nostr via Global Chat and she was only on Nostr because her brother is in IT and he spoke about it and she was bored of twitter. She didnt know anything about Bitcoin and was worried that it was a requirement to use Nostr.

The very next day, she had a LN wallet and was happy to have some Sats and learning about BTC.

I believe that Nostr will help educate people to the LN.

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1 sat \ 7 replies \ @l0k18 4 Feb 2023

spam. I install amethyst and I'm already joined to two general chats and it's an endless stream of repeated messages about some wechat group.

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @Oxjogir OP 4 Feb 2023

Interesting note, Try to use another client like Iris. Clients can filter relays and Iris is doing a good job of blocking spams by evaluating the engagement and structure of an account.

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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @DarthCoin 4 Feb 2023

Indeed a lot of spam and garbage.
Like in the video song you posted, with the rats.
Rats are attracted to free food...

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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @Asone 4 Feb 2023

This will get better as i'm pretty that with alongside adoption, POW usage to get messages published on major nodes will be required

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1 sat \ 1 reply \ @TheBTCManual 4 Feb 2023

I am just here to see the responses, always good to hear the other side

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0 sats \ 5 replies \ @BlokchainB 4 Feb 2023

It’s very clunky. The adding relays can be a pain. Once you post no deleting ever. A pain to post media. Always reloading. Messages disappearing if a relay goes down.

1 sat \ 3 replies \ @DarthCoin 4 Feb 2023

When did you start using bitcoin? 2018?
Oh boy you should see how was in 2011-2012 to use bitcoin...

Patience, these things take time to be tunned up

1 sat \ 1 reply \ @BlokchainB 4 Feb 2023

Agreed I was just mentioning the pain points but I love damus

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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @LowK3y19 8 Dec 2024

I just haven’t given it enough time but I’m just into stacker news seem to have a good thing going on here

0 sats \ 3 replies \ @2big2fail 4 Feb 2023

there is something nice about a forum such as stacker news that just requires a browser

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @Oxjogir OP 4 Feb 2023

Nostr is nothing different than Stacker in the sense that all you need is a LN wallet that can generate a pub key for Nostr (Alby) and you can sign to multiple browser clients like snort.social or Iris.