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debit card / email required for Play wallets (Muun / Phoenix)

11 sats \ 29 comments \ @036644cfc0 1 Feb 2023 bitcoin

I just tried to on-board a rando, and he was unable to download either Muun or Phoenix from Play store without adding details such as email / debit card etc.

Looks like he was running stock (google) android on a low end phone.

Why might that be? How can he download a wallet without doxxing himself? (except the fact that he's already running full google, lol)

helping him install Graphene might be a bit much, plus it wasn't a Pixel

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2 sats \ 7 replies \ @DarthCoin 1 Feb 2023

Read:

https://darthcoin.substack.com/p/private-lightning-nodes https://darthcoin.substack.com/p/lightning-wallets-comparison https://darthcoin.substack.com/p/getting-started-ln

Also you can install LineageOS (without any crap google shit) on almost any other device that is not Pixel. Works wonderful.

1 sat \ 5 replies \ @036644cfc0 OP 1 Feb 2023

I can suggest Lineage (or Caly?) to him but it could be a bit of an ask, as he wasn't too sure about BTC to begin with

I agree it's the best approach though

10 sats \ 3 replies \ @DarthCoin 1 Feb 2023

CalyxOS also is good, but do not work on non-pixel phones. Yeah, nowadays the new phones coming with android are full of shit bloatware, it's a nightmare to use them. That's why you MUST wipe them out and install a clean OS.

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @036644cfc0 OP 1 Feb 2023

agreed, the clean OS (graphene) is what drove me to Android after long-time iPhone

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5 sats \ 3 replies \ @NorthKoreanHostage 1 Feb 2023

Google play asks for a debit card when setting up a new phone or account. Just hit skip. You don't have to enter it.

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @036644cfc0 OP 1 Feb 2023

the phone was already set up, and he said he'd downloaded from play store before. Didn't see the skip as it was a different language

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0 sats \ 9 replies \ @ama 2 Feb 2023

Graphene looks interesting, but it's still Android, and you need one of their shitty phones. If you want to get rid of that thingy, you could have a looks at PostmarketOS, a real Linux distribution for phones and other mobile devices, even older ones, like the ones in my beloved Samsung Galaxy Y (codename totoro) collection.

0 sats \ 7 replies \ @036644cfc0 OP 2 Feb 2023

I love the idea of linux phones, but the reality is that Android is miles ahead in terms of security

If I had one of the necessary phones lying around (https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/Devices) I'd definitely give PostmarketOS a crack

It's not really relevant in this case though, for a novice user who just wants to download a bitcoin wallet app

0 sats \ 5 replies \ @ama 2 Feb 2023

Android ahead in terms of security? ROTFL It comes already factory compromised.

0 sats \ 3 replies \ @036644cfc0 OP 2 Feb 2023

depends which android you're talking about

I'm only considering Graphene here, wouldn't use any other flavour

I'm rooting for linux, I really like the idea of being able to plug in a keyboard and use it as an emergency laptop. I ordered a pinephone but in the end they wouldn't ship it as I didn't have a mobile number for the shipping company.

Stupid reason but this seems to be the world we live in. Give up your personal details for a privacy phone, lol

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @ama 2 Feb 2023

I get (either bought or for free) all my hardware, including my phones, second hand, and use PosmarketOS or Graphene, and I much preferred the former than the latter, of course.