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1 sat \ 7 replies \ @ForTheKing 1 Feb 2023 \ parent \ on: What is your opinion on psychedelics? bitcoin
1 Peter 5:8 says to be sober-minded. I can't fathom how you would consider Psychedelics to be considered "sober-mindedness". It is not glorifying to God to relieve yourself of the regular contraints of your conscious that God has given us.
Also, just because a substance has a desired effect (in your eyes) doesn't mean that it is good. If I want to feel the pleasure of sex, but do so outside of the bounds God has given, its goodness in my eyes does not make it actually good. Satan comes as an angel of light and if you receive "help" from drugs its from a false light and not the true one. Many have been lead astray thinking themselves close to God but actually far from him (Matt 7:23). God sets the rules on what is good. Even if you are relieved of hardships through drugs, it does not neccesitate that it pleased God in your doing so. Logical fallacy my friend.
Cyanide natural occurs in nature, is God pleased if I ingest this? Just because something occurs in nature doesn't mean it is good. Nature is fallen.
Those are my thoughts. Please repent and turn to Christ.
I do not claim that Psychedelics make someone sober during their use, or that they are "good" just because they are natural. If a substance produces a desired effect than it is effective, but I did not claim that makes it "good".
There are many different kinds of drugs, including wine, and you would not be wrong to imagine most are used to induce pleasure. However, isolated Psychedelics like DMT do not make the user feel "relieved of hardships" at all. In fact, they can present a path to confronting the hardship. I was addicted to pleasure-inducing drugs and after my experience 10 years ago I no longer am. This psychedelic method is being developed to help pleasure-inducing-drug addicts (users of heroin, fentanyl, pain/depression pills) make a recovery.
Philippians 2:4 (KJV)
Look not every man on his own things, but every man also on the things of others.
Romans 14:13 (NIV)
Therefore let us stop passing judgment on one another. Instead, make up your mind not to put any stumbling block or obstacle in the way of a brother or sister.
While this medicine can be used to help our bodies, our salvation is between ourselves and God. As in Matthew 7 Judge not, lest ye be judged.
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I just disagree with all of that. DMT is produced endogenously in the body. It has a designed purpose in the body, not to be "taken" in some external way contrary to God's design. I disagree with your presuppositions underlying your argumentation. There are substances that are used in a medicinal way but when you talk about using drugs to help you confront a sin of pleasure inducing drug addiction you treat drugs as salvation of the sin rather than belief in the Lord Jesus and his spirit of freedom.
Stop judging my judging of you to be wrong ie. stop twisting the scriptures
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Who are you to judge what I consider my salvation? I am a sinner and NOT a prophet. But even I can see your self-righteousness and glorification of your own judgement. There is only one Law giver and Judge. James 4:11-12
I ask you, what are you doing to help our brothers and sisters in drug addiction?
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John 14:6 allows me to judge what you consider salvation. There is one way
Proclaiming the gospel to them when I encounter them? I would do all that I can to walk along side a brother or sister addicted to any sin.
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I notice you do not admit your own status of sinner. James 2:10
I do not know which practice allows you to take judgement of others without witnesses.
My testimony is that-
Restricting use of psychedelics does not help spread the gospel.
Your ignorance of the bodily effects of these substances disqualifies you as a judge on this issue.
I have my own example of returning to sobriety through the use of these medicines and I will continue to share my experience honestly.
Thank you
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I am a sinner saved by the blood of Christ, I have no righteousness of my own.
I can find many orthodox Christians that will be my 2-3 witnesses on this account.
Just because you've experienced something doesn't mean God is pleased with you. We must judge things according to the standard of God's word. The principle of sober-mindedness clearly teaches that what you are doing is sin. Please repent
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The self-righteousness is obvious.
But I am not judging you, what will your witnesses say about me? They do not know my heart.
This type of condemnation drives others away from faith and throws stones across their path
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