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This week, while trying to understand why the American middle class feels poorer each year despite healthy GDP growth and low unemployment, I came across a sentence buried in a research paper:
The U.S. poverty line is calculated as three times the cost of a minimum food diet in 1963, adjusted for inflation.
The formula was developed by Mollie Orshansky, an economist at the Social Security Administration. In 1963, she observed that families spent roughly one-third of their income on groceries. Since pricing data was hard to come by for many items, e.g. housing, if you could calculate a minimum adequate food budget at the grocery store, you could multiply by three and establish a poverty line.
Orshansky was careful about what she was measuring. In her January 1965 article, she presented the poverty thresholds as a measure of income inadequacy, not income adequacy—”if it is not possible to state unequivocally ‘how much is enough,’ it should be possible to assert with confidence how much, on average, is too little.”
if you measured income inadequacy today the way Orshansky measured it in 1963, the threshold for a family of four wouldn’t be $31,200.
It would be somewhere between $130,000 and $150,000.
And remember: Orshansky was only trying to define “too little.” She was identifying crisis, not sufficiency. If the crisis threshold—the floor below which families cannot function—is honestly updated to current spending patterns, it lands at $140,000.
What does that tell you about the $31,200 line we still use?
I'm a little skeptical of the way the author goes about recalculating the poverty line, but I do think the following is largely true:
The single largest line item isn’t housing. It’s childcare: $32,773.
This is the trap. To reach the median household income of $80,000, most families require two earners. But the moment you add the second earner to chase that income, you trigger the childcare expense.
If one parent stays home, the income drops to $40,000 or $50,000—well below what’s needed to survive. If both parents work to hit $100,000, they hand over $32,000 to a daycare center.
The second earner isn’t working for a vacation or a boat. The second earner is working to pay the stranger watching their children so they can go to work and clear $1-2K extra a month. It’s a closed loop.
There was also this interesting bit about the quality difference between items in the 1950s and thing now. I know that I've often pointed out the quality improvements of certain items over the last three-quarters of a century, but there is a good point here that if the cheapest version you can buy of a certain thing also happens to be a much better version of the thing, it doesn't really count as an improvement...it's still the cost of participation.
Economists will look at my $140,000 figure and scream about “hedonic adjustments.” Heck, I will scream at you about them. They are valid attempts to measure the improvement in quality that we honestly value.
I will tell you that comparing 1955 to 2024 is unfair because cars today have airbags, homes have air conditioning, and phones are supercomputers. I will argue that because the quality of the good improved, the real price dropped.
And I would be making a category error. We are not calculating the price of luxury. We are calculating the price of participation.
To function in 1955 society—to have a job, call a doctor, and be a citizen—you needed a telephone line. That “Participation Ticket” cost $5 a month.
Adjusted for standard inflation, that $5 should be $58 today.
But you cannot run a household in 2024 on a $58 landline. To function today—to factor authenticate your bank account, to answer work emails, to check your child’s school portal (which is now digital-only)—you need a smartphone plan and home broadband.
The cost of that “Participation Ticket” for a family of four is not $58. It’s $200 a month.
I totally buy that these cut-offs work this way:
  1. The View from $35,000 (The “Official” Poor)
At this income, the family is struggling, but the state provides a floor. They qualify for Medicaid (free healthcare). They receive SNAP (food stamps). They receive heavy childcare subsidies. Their deficits are real, but capped.
  1. The Cliff at $45,000 (The Healthcare Trap)
The family earns a $10,000 raise. Good news? No. At this level, the parents lose Medicaid eligibility. Suddenly, they must pay premiums and deductibles.
Income Gain: +$10,000
Expense Increase: +$10,567
Net Result: They are poorer than before. The effective tax on this mobility is over 100%.
  1. The Cliff at $65,000 (The Childcare Trap)
This is the breaker. The family works harder. They get promoted to $65,000. They are now solidly “Working Class.”
But at roughly this level, childcare subsidies vanish. They must now pay the full market rate for daycare.
Income Gain: +$20,000 (from $45k)
Expense Increase: +$28,000 (jumping from co-pays to full tuition)
Net Result: Total collapse.
When you run the net-income numbers, a family earning $100,000 is effectively in a worse monthly financial position than a family earning $40,000.
Finally, I really found the following part interesting. I certainly remember the Covid window where it seemed like there was more money sloshing around. Maybe it was because it was harder to spend it (nobody was going out, a lot of social activities were impossible), but this description may also line up:
In April 2020, the US personal savings rate hit a historic 33%. Economists attributed this to stimulus checks. But the math tells a different story.
During lockdown, the “Valley of Death” was temporarily filled.
Childcare ($32k): Suspended. Kids were home.
Commuting ($15k): Suspended.
Work Lunches/Clothes ($5k): Suspended.
For a median family, the “Cost of Participation” in the economy is roughly $50,000 a year. When the economy stopped, that tax was repealed. Families earning $80,000 suddenly felt rich—not because they earned more, but because the leak in the bucket was plugged. For many, income actually rose thanks to the $600/week unemployment boost. But even for those whose income stayed flat, they felt rich because many costs were avoided.
I dunno, I don't think this is entirely accurate. Author seems to be making a lot of assumptions about these cliffs and how they operate in real life.
  • For medicaid, it's state by state and there may be some rules such that it's not a steep cliff once you hit the eligibility income. Moreover, if you're going over the eligibility income because you got a full time job, that will usually cover your health insurance.
  • For childcare, yes it can be quite expensive, but it only lasts up until your children are old enough to attend public school. Some families may decide that it's worth it in order to build the career during those years. Alternate approach I'm seeing more of is women who put their jobs on hold until their children are school aged.
His general point about the poverty line, the incentive effects of eligibility rules, and the "price of participation" are all fine, but the numbers and language used seems very much exaggerated for effect
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Moreover, if you're going over the eligibility income because you got a full time job, that will usually cover your health insurance.
Sure, but all the jobs I've had experience with pull some significant share of the premium from your paycheck.
If you figure two kids, two years apart, you get 8 years of putting career on hold (assuming kids go to school at 6). I don't believe he accounted for the cost of 8 years' career delay at all.
Speaking as a parent who did full-time child care for 8 years, it does put a pretty good hurting on ones' career.
I'm inclined to believe actual poverty line is closer to $140k than to $30k for a family of four.
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Let's do a family of 4 in Los Angeles, where I live. I'll use numbers that probably don't even approach poverty levels...
Rent: $3,000/mo = $36,000/yr
Food (including dining out): $50/day = $18,250/yr
Shopping (including clothes): $200/mo = $2,400/yr
Car Payments: $400/mo = $4,800/yr Auto Insurance: $200/mo = $2,400/yr Gas: $150/mo = $1,800/yr
Mobile: $30/mo (for 2 adults) = $360/yr Internet: $80/mo = $960/yr Utilities: $120/mo = $1,440/yr Entertainment (incl subscriptions): $80/mo = $960/yr
Health Insurance: $200/mo = $2,400/yr Healthcare Out of Pocket: $2,000/yr
========== Total: $73,770 / yr
I'm sure I'm missing some categories, but it's also pretty generous (good standard of living, not scraping by---though the apartment may feel cramped), and this isn't even close to approaching $140k/yr
You could even add on $25,000 for daycare (which I think is a bit much, there should be cheaper options available including family and partially remote work) and it wouldn't crack $100k
Poverty is meant to measure when someone can no longer even survive or function within society, it is not meant to be a measure of a "Decent standard of living" or "able to pursue a fulfilling career while raising a family"
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You make some good points, however there are also taxes. I think $100k pretax income for a family of 4 is indeed near some level of hardship.
My wife and I had three kids in Seattle on a $70k income and it was tight. I'm pretty frugal, so I made it work. But it was never comfortable and we definitely weren't saving, despite this being 2018. It probably wasn't poverty, but it's not a good feeling to cut most every corner and know that you still are counting on nothing going wrong.
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I agree, I don't think $100k would be comfortable. I don't know if I'd use the word "harship", but I do quite like the word "precarious" to describe it, and some economists have even described this class as the precariat. Meaning, they earn enough to make a decent living, but not enough to build up a cushion, and if they get hit with an emergency expense it could spiral them.
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I harp on this because a lot of the socialist support for people like AOC and Mamdani comes from well educated young adults whose lives are actually ok but they act like some great injustice was done to them.
Yes, there is plenty to be mad about in our current economic system, but I feel like the narrative just gets more and more exaggerated
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The tricky part is that the participation tickets got so expensive because almost everyone had opted into those systems already and were choosing to buy higher quality (although a lot of it is also regulatory burden).
There’s merit to the overall point but $140k is a preposterous number. I have a family of three and it would be obscene to suggest that we’re living in poverty. We’re actively looking for ways to scale down because we’d rather have even less and not have to work as much.
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Yeah, $140k felt pretty high to me. The childcare number really is a big chunk (and one that I don't see in my own life, because we homeschool), so I wonder if it isn't closer to true for a family that does have to make that spend in order to allow their income.
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As the article points out, childcare eats up most of the second income.
I often council two-income families to actually think through how much they benefit from the second income. It’s usually well under minimum wage, once all the associated costs are factored in.
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102 sats \ 0 replies \ @OT 15h
Sounds like a lot right?
Childcare seems crazy. No wonder people always say they can't afford kids.
If you own your home and don't have kids maybe the original "poverty line" of $31k might be enough.
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I can't even bring myself to read this its so absurd. Even at 31k one is better off than most of the world. My patience for people that have nothing to say about fiat and the robbery of the state/banks is thin.
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inflating the price of food is precisely how parasitic manipulators are driving the herd into submission: the system tampers with food supply, thereby degrading its quality for the men and enhancing it for the parasites; the result is chaos, followed by extinction... then the Matrix gets reloaded;
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @anon 13h
math is for doomers
i'll be able to afford a house because of my $1 DCA
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