I challenge the stackers to use their brain, to be inventive and learn how to hide their wallet seeds in plain sight, with plausible deniability.
Today I am asking you to take this challenge: write a nice / funny / drama / love story using 12 words as it could be 12 words from a wallet you want to save.
Imagine that this story you will put it on a postcard and send it to your mom / loved ones. Or even post it as a nostr note, in plain sight where NOBODY will suspect that in fact is a wallet seed.
You can even memorize this story and that's it, you will always have the wallet seed with you.
I did that myself multiple times, in many places and for more than 10 years, none of those places was compromised. Why? Because plausible deniability, simplicity not complexity.
The best voted 12 words story get 2100 sats.
Here is the BIP39 wordlist that you can use for this test: https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0039/bip-0039-wordlists.md You can use also whatever other BIP, with 24 words if you like. For randomness, and test real life scenario, just open whatever bitcoin wallet and press "create new wallet" to generate new set of words and use those ones.
WARNING! DO NOT USE REAL WALLETS WITH FUNDS IN THIS FUN GAME! USE YOUR BRAIN, NOT SHITGPT!
hardware wallets shills, please hold your horses, this challenge is to make people use their brains not their money
Ok bounty closed. I paid the top one voted and the next 3 also.
She cooked
bacon, he broughtbacon, they laughed overbacon, and the radio played a song aboutbacon. All they could think about wasbacon. Morning sunlight warmed theirbaconand coffee; from then on, all their breakfasts always includedbacon. After she left, he madebaconfor two out of habit, setting one plate down and speaking to the empty chair aboutbacon. One spring morning he unwrappedbaconon a park bench and finally felt whole again because of one thing: Because ofbacon, he does not have to think about checksum.hahaha nice catch, making a story around the word "bacon" and not highlighting the 12 words. good one.
Fun challenge! To up my game, I tried it with 24 words.
The faint noise sounded like *opera. Busy Grace hummed to herself, working on the ice carbon panel. Hanging by a wire, her brush with success leading to a flee fall, she tried to do damage control. Taking stock of the sight before her, she vowed to obtain a viable version next round. She would rescue her red flag and turn it into a shining example. This hurt won’t ruin her. Instead, it would help her innovate the real method.
Last
timeI saw you, you werejustatinykid— but Istillsee you everyday, deep in mymemory.Stillgotthatsmileandbeauty,likeaflower.beautiful !
Suddenly, the deep space rocket began to shudder violently. A brave human pilot was ready to feel the impact. This unusual alien energy, a total mystery across the vast expanse, would arrive soon.
Keywords ---- Vast, space, rocket, arrive, brave, human, feel, unusual, alien, energy, total, mystery
wow this is cool
Thanks it took a while but it was worth it, got to learn about the BIP 39 wordlist
decided to write it as a greentext because it's hilarious... obviously not a real story
walked outside for my daily session of pretending to be normal human
somehow don't fuck it up completely
meet her extended family
wedding day arrives
reception is pure chaos
honeymoon night
Seed: session smile marriage lyrics cousin couple announce antenna orient maze cover outside
nobody will ever suspect it's actually a wallet because who the fuck would hide financial instruments in a story about a NEET's failed marriage caused by autism
100% right !
The horrors of the ancient 21st century consume a lot of bandwidth to process. Driving thru the ruins of past civilizations, the archeological robots chug diesel, tasked with finding the answer to the question "Why?"
inspired by Richard Greaser's new track: https://wavlake.com/album/3bd67867-8efe-42ee-95cd-0d98c04d161a
clever hiding and misleading the reader with articulated words
a good tactic for the visually-inclined people is to draw, paint, or imagine a scene; imagination can be infinite and is the key to generation of new ideas; excellent prompt!
The chief of the city watched from his car as the boy ran through the fog. The distance between them grew, but he could still feel the tension in the air. Suddenly, a bullet sliced through the silence: the act that would change everything.
From behind a filter of smoke, an elegant female stepped forward, her calm eyes steady despite the chaos. The air seemed to freeze around her.[1]
I really chose the words deliberately, each one with a grain of salt, as you might say, and it turned out to be a really great story hahahahaha ↩
nice story
Mom,[1]
We accepted the resolution beneath a blanket of silence, in the name of peace, a scary version of it. They said it's our citizen duty to turn bitcoin into ETFs, for the glorious battle. We (I, you, almost everyone) said this is good, the immense loss of everything. This giant elephant in our room was too big and we accepted it.
Yet, they're still fighting, the self-custody culture remains. With a tired wink, a man whispered to me The ones holding keys, hold THE truth. His words were a cannon against lies.
I remember this, when I wake up. I tell myself softly, we're not legends but subjects of freedoms, we need breathing, we whisper always for more.
Yours,
Your ghost
I must say...this reminds me of prompt words challenges that Wordpress used to make in the past. I never thought to use like this my words. The 12 words are marked like this, inside the story in a order combined by an order that I'm comfortable with. ↩
good one, a longer letter to your mom, excellent. Thanks for participating in this challenge, is a good example for newbies to see that is not so hard to use words.
I tried something longer but as you cleared in the comments, something that I can recall and take with me. Funny how easy solutions are the path to complex issues.
report --> darthcoin is phishing 🤣
I'm a good instigator so you might just be telling the truth
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buahahaha nice try
It's okay; my giant tool looks like a train, but after I shoot into your tiny circle, you'll ask for a donor to flock to develop a shield. After all, you're going to call me your chief because it'll smell like salmon, and you'll never forget me.
... what in the world? lol
Future question
Bitter ice desert, Broken, frozen, bleak night. Cool gloom pioneer.
That ugly salmon laugh hard when two cactus bounce into garbage damp.
LOL funny one
Under the cover of a
silent night, the masked robber pulled up in his sleekblack caroutside the glittering jewelry store. Heart racing, he smashed the display case andgrabthe pricelessdiamond,quickas lightning,beforeany alarm could blare.Escapewas his only thought — as thepolicewouldarrive soon. He floored the gas, vanishing into the shadows, triumphant yet breathless.oh intriguing, a crime story
The man caught her gentle glance across the crowded room. Something silent passed between them — a recognition deeper than words. The woman felt it too, that inexplicable connection pulling at her soul.
They were two strangers, yet not strangers at all.
Months later, standing together as autumn leaves fell, they made their pledge. No grand gestures, just mutual understanding in shared smiles and intertwined fingers.
"Happy?" he whispered.
She nodded, squeezing his hand. "Completely."
Their love had been quiet from the start — a gentle knowing that some souls simply belong together, waiting patiently through lifetimes to finally connect.
nice, it could be easily interpreted as an excerpt from a book or short novel. It is so easy to hide 12 words in plain sight and nobody will ever know it.
I’ve been trying to think of a way to pass down 12 words through oral tradition (a song or story) in such a way that it can survive intact for a couple hundred years. The 12 words would be the key to a couple utxos that are unable to be spent until those couple hundred years have passed.
Trouble would be to have enough redundancy built in so that it can survive generations of the “telephone game” but also not be too obvious or a computer will grab those utxos as soon as they are spendable. Might have to figure out a way to pass down a passphrase on metal that would be the final key to unlocking it.
interesting idea, a song for generations !
hahaha who knows, maybe @carlosfandango's daily haiku contain the words to a wallet ?
I don’t know. Hidden in plain sight…. I have played around with book ciphers and even had a look at a couple of your articles where you have hidden them. It’s not a huge number of variations in a haiku or short phrase and assuming you could easily find the 12-words then it’s just a case of trying all the permutations.
I think that’s 1,352,078 variants and that doesn’t feel like enough 10-years hence.
Man alone, window view, bleak autumn; nothing will change, always eternal sadness
Is good, but you can extend it to form a nice phrase, not like a poetry. So you can add some more words in between. Just useing them like that is obvious that could be a seed. Imagine you have 12 words and you want to hide them in a letter to your mom. Your mom doesn't have to know what is inside, but will keep your nice postcard. Someday, you will need those 12 words and could call your mom and ask her to read it for you...
The MAN ALONE stared through the WINDOW VIEW at BLEAK AUTUMN leaves. He whispered, "NOTHING WILL CHANGE." His ALWAYS ETERNAL SADNESS deepened with each falling leaf.
Good one, really nice story. And quite easy to remember...
apple, breeze, cloud, dream, echo, flower, glow, heart, joy, moon, river, star
wrong, I said, make a nice story not just paste the words....
The evening breeze smelled of apple and a closing flower. A quiet cloud veiled the moon's soft glow. My heart held a vivid dream and simple joy. The river steady echo mirrored a distant, hopeful star.
ok good, now keep in mind the order of the words you used. Is good that you didn't used the same order, that could mislead the attacker but it must be well known by you.
Okay, will have another go at it
I always wondered about this but never asked or Googled it. Figured now’s a good time. Do seed phrase words gotta be from that official list, or can they be just any random stuf, even made-up words like 'dysgduyugy'?
must be from the words lists. Think about this experiment as a training for yourself.
Is there any legit reason for that limitation?
As I said, you can use any BIP words list, not only BIP39. The reason is that I want people to train themselves like it would a real case situation when they have to hide a seed into a letter, a story, that nobody could even think that it contain 12 important words.
And do not have to be in the right order. The order of the words is known only by you.
My question’s not about the story, it’s about a real seed phrase situation.
As I said, just open whatever wallet app and create a new wallet seed. An empty wallet just for this test.
Maybe I should just make a post about my question. Someone might know!
If you use random words and some of them are not from that words list, you may end up in having an invalid wallet seed. NEVER start a new wallet seed with words that YOU choose. The probability that somebody else use them too is higher the the entropy of a wallet app.
Don't write stories with your seed words. AI will guess them eventually.
go ahead! try it. On my nostr in over 7000 notes there are 12 words. I have also over 30000 posts on SN, and they also contain 12 words from a 1BTC wallet. And AI is just a bubble, a myth, just other people data.
You mean sequentially in the right order?
That is for you to find out. Why would I make your life easier? Plausible deniability is quite powerful, right?
If they are not sequential and in order than I too can say my texts contain seed phrases to multiple wallets.
Plausible deniability means you keep a 12 word seed in a safe to a fake wallet, but remember 13th word in your head to your actual stash. I don't understand what you mean here.
plausible deniability also means: even if you find / choose 12 words, you still don't know if are the real ones.
You can play with this scenario at infinite levels. I can put 12 words that you will find them, but then those 12 words could also hide another story that goes to the real seed... and this can continue on and on and you will never know where to stop.
12 words mnemonic either derive private keys with non-zero balances, or not. Derivation path is also a variable, but if you choose non-standard one you risk forgetting it.
good point, derivation path is also very important.
Sow the seeds like trees. Live forever free and work like bees.
Is nice, but limiting to just 12 words is too obvious when is about to "hide in plain sight".
Your momma such fat she'll cry when food deposits run empty quickly.
Cool idea.
I bought a fantasy novel from a pleb last week that contains all 2048 words sprinkled in alphabetically. To be used because a book is an easier emergency backup to travel with.
If you're interested:
It's not marketed as being related to bitcoin at all. But it's on Amazon and elsewhere, and there may be more like it.
This is impressive!
Mi inmenso amor sostiene mi mano la música de su corazón es la misma melodía de la promesa eterna que nos juramos eternamente.
Bacon bacon bacon Bacon bacon bacon Bacon bacon bacon Bacon bacon bacon
Mmmmmmmm bacon What are you thinking about?
I'm new to this world, but I'll try anyway:
Although I realized That the system is broken The solution appeared
The Rare Earths Market Reality Disproves the Libertarians Free Markets will Will Fix Everything is Bullshit.
BTW here is my solution to free and secure cold wallet seed phrase storage - in open sight!
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/zyva56/low_tech_low_cost_secure_seed_phrase_solution/
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Ebook page number word locations change depending on type size so attacker needs to know the specific settings your book and what its specific edition/version are set to.
You can use any document set to any specific page numbering and version.
The text can thus be unique and different to any online database.
The attackers needs in the first place to know that the coded seed phrase can be decoded in this manner. How to they know that anyway?