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11 sats \ 15 replies \ @Signal312 OP 10 Oct \ on: Charlie Kirk's dramatic statement 48 hours before assassination - real or not? news

@k00b Curious that this post isn't showing in the 'hot' tab, though it's new and has a ton of votes.

I'm assuming it also has a lot of downvotes? Seems like you could "disappear" posts with downvotes, if I'm reading the below correctly.

("Item"."weightedVotes" - "Item"."weightedDownVotes" + ("Item"."weightedComments"*0.25) + ("Item".boost / 5000)) / POWER(GREATEST(3, EXTRACT(EPOCH FROM (now() - "Item".created_at))/3600), 1.1) AS hot_score, ("Item"."subWeightedVotes" - "Item"."subWeightedDownVotes" + ("Item"."weightedComments"*0.25) + ("Item".boost / 5000)) / POWER(GREATEST(3, EXTRACT(EPOCH FROM (now() - "Item".created_at))/3600), 1.1) AS sub_hot_score

150 sats \ 7 replies \ @0xbitcoiner 10 Oct

no downzaps. low trust rank (in news terr) zaps

0 sats \ 6 replies \ @Signal312 OP 10 Oct

Cool - where do you get these graphs from?

111 sats \ 5 replies \ @0xbitcoiner 10 Oct

https://stacker.news/stackers/all/day

21 sats \ 0 replies \ @OneOneSeven 10 Oct

LOL, pretty sure all those downzaps this week are me

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @Bell_curve 10 Oct

On the graph is the time zone local or the same as SN?

11 sats \ 0 replies \ @0xbitcoiner 12 Oct

my local time 🇵🇹

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @Signal312 OP 10 Oct

I see - so you can see downvotes in general, but not on a particular post?

Very interesting.

111 sats \ 0 replies \ @0xbitcoiner 10 Oct

but not on a particular post?

right

45 sats \ 3 replies \ @k00b 10 Oct

It's in hot in ~news at least: https://stacker.news/~news

0 sats \ 2 replies \ @Signal312 OP 10 Oct

Got it. I guess I always assume that "hot" mostly captures everything I want, so I rarely go to the separate areas, such as news.

But if someone really wanted to heavily downvote something - they could totally bury a post, is that correct?

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @k00b 10 Oct

Boost is like a zap in reverse (trust and log10 of the amount), but yes they can bury a post if there aren't many zaps on it.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @k00b 10 Oct

*downzap

45 sats \ 2 replies \ @k00b 10 Oct

fwiw it doesn't have a ton of votes - it has a lot of sats, but from only two zappers. Each zap's impact is weighted by the zapper's zap trust in that territory (do they zap good stuff early and often in that territory) and is proportional to log10 of the amount they zapped.

45 sats \ 0 replies \ @k00b 10 Oct

I realize this is confusing and opaque. In November we plan to remove trust from ranking which should make things way more intuitive

7 sats \ 0 replies \ @Signal312 OP 10 Oct

Thanks for the reply. Just seemed like previously similar posts of mine have been visible on "hot". Now I'm scrolling through multiple screens and still don't see it, it's only visible on "recent". I assume there's no way to see downvotes for a post? Looking forward to the November update.