**And this actually bring me to a weird idea..** 🤔
```Receive the payment to a node other than mine, but it would be encrypted somehow so that the owner of the node can't spend it without my permission. Then I wouldn't need a channel. I can't get the funds without cooperation, but at least he can't rob me```

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My current understanding is that there is no universal recommendation.

As the simplest non-custodial solution seems to me Phoenix Wallet, but

Other known approaches that could in combination work are:

bitcoin

🤷 What if a lot of people really want to use bitcoin permission-less?

**Thanks for your comments** 🙇
My current understanding is that there is no universal recommendation. 

As the simplest non-custodial solution seems to me Phoenix Wallet, but
- It’s more expensive and less predictable in behaviour then having own node (or using custodial solution).

Other known approaches that could in combination work are:
- Cross-input signature aggregation
- Channel factories
- other sidechains (like Liquid)
- Fedimint
- Mimble Wimble
- combination with custodial solutions
- block increase
- please add more if you have some..