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502 sats \ 10 replies \ @optimism 5 Sep \ on: [Code of Conduct in BOSS] Is Rusty Russell the puppet of Jack Dorsey ? bitcoin
What is it that you want to achieve?
If you want to be reinstated/unbanned, like the title of your issue suggests, you will have to work with the same people that you in both the issue and this post explicitly voice hypotheses about that are... less than generous.
How will you work with these people? What would that look like?
I think he is just voicing that he is getting black balled and in Bitcoin this happens quite often but no one speaks about it. Not saying this is the situation here, but I do get the sense that he feels he has no other outlet but sn to voice this. Not the approach I would take in a collaborative working environment but everyone is different. I think you’re right he should try a different approach, Crucial Conversations is a great book on how to have tuff conversations with people. Maybe first off don’t accuse them of bad intent. 🤷♂️
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Not the approach I would take in a collaborative working environment but everyone is different.
Curious, how you would approach more the issue if you were in my shoes.
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I would start first with an apology clearly if what you say is true and I think you believe what you are saying is true. You likely owe them an apology for an incident in 22 or 23 when all this started. I would start there first. At the end of the day when working in a collaborative environment a single person can disrupt everyone else’s work and throw them off sync, I’ve seen this personally at PlebLab. It’s always best try and get along as best you can or be the first to apologize especially when you know you misspoke or made a mistake. Always try to lead with humility.
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I’m 100% that one should lead with humility.
For the apology, I’m yet have to convince the other side is playing fair.
No problem to withdraw some useless ad hominem, the day there is willingness for dialogue.
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This is good wisdom.
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Been working with founders and devs in Bitcoin since 21 have a ton of experience in this area. Seen it all, been through it all. You should see Tuesdays and Bitdev weeks it’s like rolling counseling sessions at my desk those days. I do enjoy it though I love people and helping them.
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What is it that you want to achieve?
Near-term, proving to the community I’m not the one who is refusing the dialogue.
There has been a refusal Day 1 from Rusty Russell to engage and discuss my arguments on the lack of fairness and due process about the Lightning BOLTs CoC establishment.
How will you work with these people? What would that look like?
Get to the point where they understand and have internalized that fairness and due process matters if you wish to have peaceful conflict resolution among a social group, which is true too for open-source community.
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Near-term, proving to the community I’m not the one who is refusing the dialogue.
Why do you think you have to prove that? It's obvious that when someone gets silenced, they're not the one refusing dialogue. You started off with a lot of sympathy, starting, I think, with the delving incident.
Get to the point where they understand and have internalized [..]
What will you do if the people you target will take 20 years to agree with you? What if it will never happen?
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Why do you think you have to prove that?
Always good to advocate the virtues of dialogue.
What will you do if the people you target will take 20 years to agree with you? What if it will never happen?
I don’t know man, that’s so much questions and I don’t have answer to everything.
But I know it’s Friday late of day in my timezone, so I’ll will certainly go to boxe and go for beers after that.