I scoffed when they called Trump a fascist. I stand corrected.
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36 sats \ 10 replies \ @kepford 5h
I'm curious. Do you consider FDR a fascist?
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0 sats \ 9 replies \ @siggy47 OP 5h
Good question. I always thought of him more as a communist, but the ideologies do meet when the circle closes. The whole national socialist thing.
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144 sats \ 7 replies \ @kepford 5h
I remember learning more about FDRs actions during the war and how he "nationalized" some many aspects. His youth groups seemed very similar to Hitler's (though noble to Americans?). He altered the economy with massive abuses of presidential power. But the people seem to have supported him as the Germans did of their leader. Fascism as an idea was pretty popular in the US prior to the war and honestly I think the US was probably a major influence on the rise of Fascism in Europe. I'm of the opinion that the US adopted many of the same approaches to public / private partnerships that were in place in Germany too. We just don't call it that nasty name. I used to wrestle with this and then I just realized that there isn't really clear and uniform agreement on what fascism even is. Its kind of a useless term.
Today it even seems to be losing its shock value as WW2 becomes a more distant memory. I think the weakest argument against it is the racial one. You can remove the racism and its still rotten. And we've seen many different systems use racism to justify terrible things.
As far as Trump? He may be a fascist but I kinda don't think that's a helpful way to think of him. I don't see him as ideological at all really. He is no where near Hitler in how he thinks/acts. To me he's more of a strongman figure. Tough guy. Business mindset without the ideology. He seems to have some good instincts but also very easy to influence by those around him.
The thing that concerns me is the culture that led to his rise to power. He has always been more of a symptom of rot than source to me. I think the US could have a much much worse President. We are entirely divided in ways I don't see changing and a really smart politician could use this to crazy things. Things MUCH worse than the stuff people are losing their minds about. And this guy could be from the extreme left or right.
I'm thinking of the Return of the Strong Gods again.
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0 sats \ 5 replies \ @siggy47 OP 5h
Really good answer. Thanks. You obviously gave this much more thought than me with my flippant characterization. I agree with your take on Trump. He almost has the attitude that might be held by a child when thinking about the presidency. He is the boss who gets to decide what to do. Kids learn about separation of powers later.
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66 sats \ 3 replies \ @kepford 5h
Think about this...
Maybe the average voter is a fascist and just doesn't realize it. That would be an interesting thought experiment.
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75 sats \ 1 reply \ @siggy47 OP 5h
You're right about the western world pre WW 2. The British monarchy. Lindbergh. Henry Ford. I think we probably look at this history through a postwar lens.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @kepford 5h
Imagine a book titled
We're All Fascists Now - How Donald Trump is a Mirror of Our Politics
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36 sats \ 0 replies \ @kepford 5h
lol
Dude, if only that were the idea of children. When I talk to people that like Trump... that's their mentality. Calling them nationalists or whatever is giving them too much credit. Same goes for many progressives. I mean... we are just so lazy.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @halalmoney 2h
Great note. I can’t quite believe this site is (almost) free to use!
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36 sats \ 0 replies \ @SimpleStacker 49m
Is that a real book title? If not, someone should write it haha
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36 sats \ 0 replies \ @Solomonsatoshi 2h
Trump may be right on this?
He can at least see that China poses a huge challenge to US wealth, power and dominance.
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36 sats \ 0 replies \ @justin_shocknet 2h
At least this is transparent'ish, past admins would have just had the IC/FBI blackmail him or drag him through the media.
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