Notification gang rise up!

Paul does a really good job of not listening to a word his opposition has to say to him.

What are these options this time? How does moving to Monero have anything to do with the person you know being beaten? What happened to the offer to trade prisoners?

Its like I said last time, this will result in violent gangs and why make new ones? Seeing the opportunity to recruit new meat bags, the current gangs would probably be offering "protection" in exchange for extortion or service or something. Your friend who's in prison will probably join one of these gangs before their chances of survival without doing that aren't great. Gangs know how to move money and product in and out of the prison system (or so I hear). The whole country is gonna look like El Salvador before they adopted Bitcoin lol.

Anyway, I pick flee the country because fuck all of that shit.

Or you can just use joinmarket with the Jam frontend since you know, it already exists.

Jinx

(We posted the same thing at about the same time lol)

I have a thought in the back of my mind, that it would be neat if there were a software program that gets all of the software you use on your system and gets the payment addresses for each maintainer of that software along with some analysis of what needs more money and what's already funded.

Its around the same thought I had about making a miner fee support program that donates part of your miner fee for your tx (so you're intentionally paying more in miner fees) to a program that detects if a block contains miner fee paying txs and if none, subsidize the block with the emergency donation pool. (by the way, CTV kinda does that https://utxos.org/uses/scaling/ using congestion controlled transactions. Just have a bunch of minimum feerate txs ready to go and it doesn't have to detect anything just a miner will pick it up if they need it.)

Both would be opt-in obviously

I include illegally migrate aka refugee status.

Its sane because once its over you can live a peaceful life. If you stay, you stay through hell.

Uh its great for someone who understands how the lightning network works and enjoys full control of all the settings (including whether to use convenience options or not).

Blixt just got completely forgotten from this list lol

Well idk maybe.

and especially if they found out you were basically able to earn money from within the prison using the calculator lmao.

I mean look, there's always other stuff we can look at. I've seen math machines made with plumbing, kinetics (the non-electronic toy) and all kinds of stuff so who knows.

lol.

lmao

You STILL have fucking monero in this poll? You act like Monero is the simple solution to this problem. It isn't. At all. supertestnet Evaluating my bitcoin privacy techniques against three surveillance attacks

Also, why is "Flee the country/Sell Bitcoin now, buy back when rehomed" not in the option list? That's a sane answer.

Let me put it this way, if the state said you weren't allowed to own money, what would you do? They find out you've been doing capitalist shit like buying eggs from your neighbors, are you just gonna up and die?

Also, what the hell is the difference between peaceful protest and be a criminal until caught?

The real answer to this is to observe your surroundings. In your scenario, neighbors, friends, and family members were arrested why is that? If that means they were all transacting in Bitcoin, and you're saying my network is in jail, then that's a lot better than what the default imagination would conjure which would be the idea that you're ALONE. If you're the only one, your neighbors will turn on you if for no other reason than to be left alone.

So my network is in jail. If there's a possibility they'd have multiple levels of multi-sig and maybe I'm one of their key holders, but it might be up to a year until the timelock on my key allows me to spend (in conjunction with other members) for them. Or not, maybe knowing if they just remember their seed phrase, they'll be rich as hell when they get out is enough for them who knows. Lots of people have lots of different setups depending on what purpose the sack of sats serves and what they believe their threat model to be.

The reality of this scenario, is that this will ultimately result in the formation of violent gangs because its the only way to sustainably resist a state while living within their jurisdiction. Prison gangs have actually taken over prisons and cans of mackerel are their money.

If the continued use of Bitcoin for people in prison is desired, it would require further discussion. Creating digital signatures by hand isn't exactly easy. I saw a prison laptop once, but it was in a video about hacking it and the guide on how to boot a custom BIOS and OS to it was the reason they were actually removed from prison (idk if they reintroduced them later or something) so not have an automatic math machine makes it a bit difficult. I know @supertestnet made hedgehog, but I'd have to hear his input on how easy he might think it would be to do that protocol with pen and paper.

Anyway, a discussion on how to transact Bitcoin while in prison is where I would take this whole discussion lol. However, the sane answer to your question, is to "Flee the country/Sell Bitcoin now, buy back when rehomed/illegally migrate out of the country (aka be a refugee) without selling the Bitcoin".

And yeah if I'm not allowed to run then it is true that I value my freedom more than my life so.

James 14:4 "Why, you do not even know what will happen tomorrow. What is your life? You are a mist that appears for a little while and then vanishes."

What wallet/lightning implementation supports bolt 12 though?

And yet we are saying the same thing.

Testnet3 is not the same network as testnet2 or testnet1.

Honestly, if a permissioned edition of testnet is necessary for uninterrupted development, lets do it.

The value of testnet is that coins have no value. Bitcoin is permissionless, but a chain that has no value (other than testing) doesn't have to be.

Huh, guess I misunderstood.

This makes sense for the default behavior, but can you do me a favor and for the power users among us allow a setting that tells us if the receiving end doesn't have enough inbound liquidity as to avoid our sats from being donated directly to SN instead of the intended user XD

I would be very sad to find out I just zapped someone 5k sats and they just got in store credit lol.

Hey, btw, can you add a request inbound feature to SN or something?

Also, I don't know what you're using for this interface, but I'll shill again the interface this discord mod I know made for his Bitcoin discord:

PayMeBTC-client PayMeBTC-server

I doubt that. The SEC is arguing a very different case completely unrelated to Bitcoin.

If you choose inflation, but no taxes, your country bans Bitcoin and ensures you can only use inflatable money.

If you choose taxes, but no inflation, every aspect of your life is documented and reported as to ensure you pay the taxes you're supposed to pay and also there's a shit ton of loopholes that let politicians and the people who lobby them pay 0 taxes.

I would pick Georgist taxes over inflation, but if added limitations into a pick is not allowed, I pick Bitcoin and a different country lol.

Yeah, I can certainly see a malicious bitcoin core being pushed to nix packages. I do like the flake system, but apparently it has some problems.

Also, I noticed the nix software center (the frontend flake I found for installing nix packages and flakes) doesn't find the fort-nix-bitcoin project. Its probably unmaintained. I don't know how to fix it though. Flakes themselves are very often used with many layers of abstraction (like with dream2nix)

I myself have been thinking about forking NixOS, but I know there's no way in hell I'd be able to do that especially on my own. I had momentarily thought of making a "RubyOS" that installs packages using the Gem package manager lmao. The problem of course being if there are any breaking changes between ruby version (which I have never encountered myself, but the fear of that is problem enough)

Using the quickest web search in the west:

(AUGUST 2022) Here's the newest TCP update: https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc9293 Quick overview:

TCP still has this vulnerability called a SYN flood attack which to this day is handled server side using anomalous detection and things. There is also the question of if you even can patch that by updating the protocol.

However, what changes are made to TCP, you will notice are soft changes or soft forks if you will. They aren't disruptive, they just add on things.

Unlike Bitcoin, with TCP, they did actually sunset some things that people just don't do anymore which is why it wasn't disruptive, no one does them anymore.

How about SMTP?

Well, the Simple Mail Transfer Protocol became a permissioned protocol. Often if you try to set up SMTP on your home PC, your ISP will just say "no" and most people use big services like gmail, yahoo, tutanota, etc. If you're not on the list, you never show up in that user's inbox.

Jamason Lopp The Perils of Premature Protocol Ossification

I believe cries for ossification are not genuine and are rather just a defense mechanism for people who don't understand (or care) about the benefits and downsides (aka tradeoffs) of a BIP.

It seems to me that people who scream for ossification are just defending against a social narrative attack (aka judging BIPs against the BIP author's personality), which is fair enough actually. As much its been said that we should judge code by its merits rather than its author's personality, I do think people have good reason to be afraid of narratives that don't reflect the reason a BIP is merged, popping up as a result of the soft fork.

Jeremy Rubin decided to prove (rather than dismiss) this fear when he decided to throw a fit at core and opened a PR to remove BIP 119. I swear if that PR went through, I'd have half a mind to submit it again (not that I would be able to maintain it). I'm not sure what the license on that code is, but hopefully its the kind that lets you fork it like that just so I could show Jeremy that he can't go around pulling stunts like that.

(this is the PR I'm talking about): https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/pull/1561#issuecomment-2073870968