@k00b
would you roll back the functionality
No, not at all.
But if you really think about it; if you want to see ~econ in your feed, does the tag on the content really help that much? You're just gonna see the title of the post, and be like "Oh, cool...maybe I read this". It doesn't likely change the outcome of what you read. So, the tag, really only helps the people who don't want to see the territory content OR I suppose, people who want EXCLUSIVELY that territory's content. Which, is probably a rare way to browse SN.
curious to know what other cool tools
WAAAAY more control over zap flow
Stay with me here, the first sentence in the next paragraph is going to be jarring. But, if you think about it for a split second, my suggestion is step towards less centralization. As it stands right now, SN has a claim on 100% of zaps, and they've decided subjectively to set the split at 90-10 universally, and we trust them to forward it on according to those terms. But I see this like a centralized federal government declaring numbers for states. It works for some, but not others.
Territory owners should get a claim on 100% of the sats from any post and any comment in the territory. Then, the territory owner(s) should get to set a call-back URL, which is hit for every post, comment, and zap event, which gets the full context of the event, and then returns an object which represents the weights of where any zaps should go for that event. A protocol.
The territory owners would be able to set logic such as:
- Posters get 50% of the first 1000 sats, territory gets the other 50%, but poster gets 99% of anything higher, territory keeps the 1%.
- 13th day of the month, all zaps go to charity.
- Posters who are in the top ten, get 95% of zaps, else, you get 80%, balance goes to territory.
- Territory treasury gets 5% of all zaps. Territory can do their own games with this pile.
- Split revenue for 15 days across these specific names proportional to specific weights.
- A dice-roll on every zap, determines the split.
This 90-10 split is a subjective constant chosen by SN, which makes for a market-clearing number under certain conditions. If I had made 200K sats from the 10% rake, I'm 10000% sure, that I would lower the split cause if I didn't, ~econ2 would pop up. Conversely, it makes no sense to spend 100K to get 5K in "revenue". SN needs to 20x before we're looking anywhere near breaking event at the 100K.
Data
Just, lots more info about whats going on in the territory.
Tagging + API
Would like to be able to add value, by auto-tagging, programmatically, via after-the fact API.
Thanks for the clarification.
Kudos for already generating open timestamps as part of the publication process.
Here a great ressource on micro-payment and reputation for peer-to-peer / distributed system, a lot of food for thoughts: https://www.freehaven.net/doc/oreilly/accountability-ch16.html
Excellent question and setup.
tl;dr It's (1) that I'm optimistic generates many productive (2). They're incredibly interwoven and I struggle to consider them separately tbh.
you're building a kind of community where x happens
Generically, I think our X is money<>information exchange. If we boil X longer, I think it's value exchange and imo community is value exchange, a uniquely personal and attentive form of it. (imho community is the best form of value exchange.)
All online communities are information exchanges but they're stuck in information barter, ie I give you an information apple for an information orange.
If we can create a money<>information exchange, my hope is it leads to a more efficient information trade and an information invisible hand.
Ultimately, I don't want to prescribe what happens here. I want people to pay for what they want to happen here, give them the tools to pay for it, and tools to receive what they paid for. Likewise on the supply side.
If I had to dictate what happens here, it'd be 70% learning and 25% camaraderie and 5% entertainment but why dictate that when I can let everyone choose for themselves in relative isolation?
what, if any, kind of steering do you do, or do you consider doing, as SN evolves? Feature development is a clear way to steer, approach 1-style. Are you steering in other ways, too?
Tony is a canary suggesting we've outgrown a one-size-fits-all commons. Fixing the one-size problem I believe fixes the hypotheticals you shared.
I don't want to steer. I don't want SN to be a bus. It's a network of well maintained roads to attractions you all create. I want stackers to have their own cars. I want stackers to take their wheel.
When we have subs, those will be cities. When we give sub creators economic tools, they will build their own transportation systems within their cites. We hope to even allow cities within cities within cities. But I'm getting ahead of myself ...
Hopefully that's revealing. I don't think I've yet communicated these desires very well outside of myself yet - except to maybe @hq.
136 sats \ 2 replies \ @elvismercury OP 4 Oct 2023 \ parent \ on: Lyn Alden book club part I bitcoin
I've heard that from other places, too. Seems weird, although when I steelman it, I guess I can sort of get it. I have a PhD in a different field and I can think of a zillion really fundamental things that you don't get exposed to unless you insist on it. There's just too much to cover, and those foundational things are ... foundational. Considered to be so basic as to not need examination, I suppose.
One of the byproducts of going down the btc rabbit hole, for me, was encountering so many super fascinating takes on money and its origins and the psychology of it. Bitcoiners don't often get exposed to these through the normal channels. For instance, here's probably my favorite book on money topics, which I've never heard anyone even mention. (Though in fairness, no one mentions it outside of btc, either.)
If you just go one field over, it's like a whole other universe of things to discover.
In the non-economic social sciences, the commodity money narrative is not nearly as dominant as it is in btc circles. You can go a long ways before anybody really emphasizes it. The most famous treatment that I can recall that's part of the btc canon is Nick Szabo's writing on social scalability.
Lyn's book gives a succinct but very nice treatment of the role of money in social coordination. Can you think of other examples in the btc space that do a good job talking about how money unlocks complex social interactions from a non-commodity narrative?
You're right you have a solid local environment start guide. The favourite ones I've seen though are ones where they provide a single bash script that does everything.
Here's my favourite example of a CONTRIBUTING.md, think that's where I got it from:
https://github.com/josephholsten/boring/blob/master/CONTRIBUTING.md
GENESIS
{ 'user' : @jeff, 'vote_sats' : 30, 'post_id' : 20807}
{ 'recipients' : [[15, @DarthCoin], [10, @k00b], [5, @SomeCharity]] }