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Was writing a comment to @ek in his latest post and once again it got too long, and turned into its own thing.
To not acknowledge that only proves my point even more that we're not that different.
I strongly agree with this, and now am trying to think of a subculture that positions themselves oppositionally to normies, and has a similar sense of superiority as bitcoiners en masse, but who are (unlike bitcoiners en masse) just in their assessment -- who really are that superior to everyone else, whose smugness is warranted.
None of the ones I can think of survive much scrutiny.
Like, there's a big keto contingent of researchers and scientists, later branching into carnivore, who believe they're right about everything, and have some compelling evidence that makes them feel smart and proud. Personal testimonials, etc. They think everyone else is so deluded! I used to be in this group.
But it's only a short jaunt over to the plant-based people where you find comparable stories of transformation complete with before-and-after photos, comparable (even superior) science, and comparable smugness. You choke on it.
The nature of human affairs is that neither group can acknowledge the merits in the other. They are memetically sealed. And how could they not be? Once a movement acquires enough energy, other ideas become threats with potential to upend the established power structures in the subculture in question, won through blood and battle. Most of the calories of this life stage are spent defending against transgression, or mounting an offense to bring the fight to the hated enemy.
Of course, the more they fight, they more each side is entrenched. So long as neither is annihilated, both thrive, after their fashion. Holy crusaders in each group grow prominent. They get elected to office or spin up their own podcasts and YouTube channels. Everyone gets to be somebody.
Maybe it's just the story of Kuhn's paradigms playing out, and the true heart of every subculture (e.g., proponents of the germ theory of infection; or heliocentrism; or anti-slavery; or bitcoin) eventually win out so thoroughly that people don't even consider alternative ideas to be thinkable thoughts; what remains is groups fighting around the edges of some conquered territory long after the meaningful battles have been won.
this territory is moderated
Once the industry gets established, the "beliefs" become locked in (or at least become more rigid). Even if the original proponents are open and honest actors, they can be replaced when and if they change their minds.
It seems like cults of personality can actually offset this a little. If the subculture is attached to a person, then that person could hypothetically be open to change.
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65 sats \ 1 reply \ @Artilektt 14h
We're gonna be colonizing the universe and still arguing over diet.
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Truth.
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27 sats \ 0 replies \ @BITC0IN 12h
you just described the op return skirmish
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10 sats \ 0 replies \ @ek 11h
Was writing a comment to @ek in his latest post and once again it got too long, and turned into its own thing.
Cool, my posts are generating posts!
It’s like my post had a baby, haha
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It's fascinating how subcultures lock themselves into their own beliefs, unable to recognize what other groups might offer. The struggle between keto proponents and plant-based advocates is a perfect example of how certainty can blind people. In the end, everyone seeks validation and recognition, but they forget that the diversity of ideas can enrich knowledge
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