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26 sats \ 4 replies \ @fiatbad 8h \ on: NOSTR really sucks for me :( nostr
What Nostr offers the world is FAR bigger than an X clone. Nostr is a no-brainer for decentralized, open-source platforms.
On the latests WBD episode, Mark Moss was talking about how he believes the world is just beginning to lean into decentralized, open-source and away from the centralized jungle we've been used to. If he's right, Nostr is what will be used as the authentication-layer and database layer for most of these open-source apps. Only AFTER people are using their Nostr keys to login to pay their tax bill will people start seeing how easy it is to use the same login for their social media.
At the first Nostrica event, I remember Jack Dorsey expressing regret for not creating Twitter "the right way" the first time. With decentralization, interoperability, and censorship-resistance in mind. But the capital markets were working against him. He had to go the centralized route if he wanted the funding.
Now, we need to teach the world to shift to a completely new way of doing the internet. A single login key for EVERYTHING on the internet. And data, such as friends/followers lists, which are always there regardless of which platform you're on at the moment. A deeper layer to social media that has been missing until now.
Nostr sucks, just like paying for something with on-chain Bitcoin kinda sucks. But we don't do it because it's easier. We do it cuz it's right. (or we don't do it at all cuz deep down we're just lazy NGU maximalists who can't be bothered learning new shit)
A single login key for EVERYTHING on the internet.
This passage reminded me a lot of WEB 3.0, I don't agree. I think the point of decentralization is to prevent censorship by keeping your data safe from any arbitrary actions and still allowing you to create as many identities as you want without them referring to anyone in particular.
Nostr sucks, just like paying for something with on-chain Bitcoin kinda sucks. But we don't do it because it's easier. We do it cuz it's right.
I completely agree with that. And I add that I use it to avoid being held hostage by algocracy.
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Dude, please spare me I know all of this.
Just answer me this.
Do you think an Discovery Algorithm would make this 10x better? What ever part or layer of nostr one may be using.
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It's such a nuanced topic.
There are major pros and cons with discovery algorithms.
Ultimately, having them set by some central authority goes against the ethos of Nostr/Bitcoin. But not having them at all will probly mean Nostr never appeals to a wider audience and will continue suffering from the points you make. It's a lose/lose situation, and it's making me sad.
Last I heard, there were some discovery algorithm settings being developed as a NIP to get into the protocol. I am skeptical that they will be used widely. The individuals have to set their preferences which most are too lazy to bother with.
We don't want to be controlled, but we don't want to take control. We don't want a centralized company showing us what it wants us to see and censoring based on its preferences or government mandate. But without discovery algorithms, how does information propagate.... how do people discover new things? How do we challenge ourselves?
Personally, I've been using the "global" view on Nostr more often lately. That way I see everything. But, this is also annoying and inefficient, for obvious reasons.
I dunno... I'm interested in digging deeper into the nuances of this topic, but it's also not the top of my interest list. I see it as another trade-off discussion. In order to have censorship resistance we lose some other key things.
BTW, following you on Nostr now. So you got at least one new follower out of this.
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how does information propagate.... how do people discover new things? How do we challenge ourselves? EXACTLY MY POINT!
Great. Maybe we can talk about it there :D
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