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I always said: all that crap can fit perfectly on Liquid network.

But who knows... maybe even Blockstream is behind all this "wizards" crap movement, funding them, so will push people into using their defunct Liquid. Make Bitcoin onchain expensive with crap jpegs, then users will move slowly to Liquid. So their experiment finally will be used. Don't you see now some new wallets sneaking Liquid into their features, so people do not know what they are using?

I don't work for Blockstream or "have bags of Liquid" to sell. I don't believe a link exists between Liquid and jpegs/runes/inscriptions. There are always crooks trying to rip off fools whichever way possible. I share your frustration with normies being distracted with shitcoins and scams, but that's life. I don't advocate that everyone uses Liquid, but I enjoy transaction obfuscation and atomic swaps it offers. Both Lightning and Liquid (or sidechains in general) were invented by Blockstream. They are smart guys I respect and enjoy learning from. Blockstream, Lightning Labs, ACINQ, Boltz etc, are not crooks, although they develop Bitcoin infrastructure for profit. Capitalism is what drives innovation, and you are free to use it or ignore. There is no conspiracy "to move everyone to Liquid" like you say, it is just a good tool for certain scenarios, and it is a form of Bitcoin, same as Lightning or Ark.

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I trust NO ONE of those...

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were invented by Blockstream

No. Blockstream is just a company. Not the inventor of LN.

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ElementsProject is part of Blockstream afaik

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Yes but that is long way to say that "Blockstream invented LN"... You could say that Blockstream funded.
It is a club and we don't know much details about... that's why I question everything and not take it for granted.

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Maybe, but Adam Back is the original cypherpunk behind proof of work. What they also do, is running free seminars for developers around the world:

https://liquid.net/bootcamp

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That's how they brainwash young devs...

Adam Back is the original cryptopunk behind proof of work

So what? Do I have to follow him blindly?
Do not underestimate the power of the dark side...

And "cryptopunk" is not the same as cypherpunk...
And cypherpunk doesn't mean that automatically is not a fiat maxi...
I never saw Adam promoting heavily the use of Bitcoin as money, but the opposite...
He's always making price predictions like any other shitcoiner... and that is a red flag for me.

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Was a typo, he was cypherpunk like Satoshi. Adam is building a FOSS finance infrastructure to compete with banks. I respect that a lot. More choice is always good. If Liquid starts KYC or AML etc, we can always spin up another Elements sidechain and opt out.

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We do not have to compete with banks.
We have to build a parallel economy based only on Bitcoin. Anything that touch fiat system is doomed to fail.
That's all.

Adam is building a FOSS finance infrastructure to compete with banks

Like latest integration of a crapto platform into Green wallet (https://www.meld.io/crypto-stack) ?

Just this is a big red flag for Blockstream.

I don't. Knowledge is power for both sides. I take what VC projects offer to increase my own freedom and freedom of others.

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I take what VC projects offer

Would you also accept USDT from Tether to build a tether based app?

And if you think they make too much money, take their code and run it yourself at swapmarket.online ! )))

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yes I use sometimes swap.market but only to swap sats between LN channels and onchain.
No liquid and tether crap.

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Haha, I know! But that is the beauty of FOSS: you don't have to trust the devs to run their code!!

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I don't see any evidence that blockstream has anything to do with the spam...
And the spammers don't want to be 'on liquid'. They want to sell the idea that they are creating and marketing something valuable 'on Bitcoin'

Which of course they aren't.

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