Btw, sorry if my replies came off as rude. I got a little emotional because I just can't stand it when it feels like someone's arguing about how things _should_ be instead of how they actually are, haha

kepford

there is no record in my resume of getting a B on a class 20 years ago...

Of course not, because it has been 20 years. Grades become irrelevant the moment you have better proof of skills, but when you’re fresh out of college that’s mostly all you have.

That doesn't affect the person that was sitting next to you who didn't cheat.

It would if we apply to the same job and they don’t get employed because they have no degree while I do. It’s not that deep.

Yes but do you have a better idea to get a quick assessment of the “skills” of a whole generation of people?

“Skills” because I agree, school isn’t there to make us happy, it’s there to know who can follow arbitrary rules the best and that’s a good prediction if you’ll be easy to work with hence you’re more likely to get a job.

AskSN

What do you think is a fair way of dealing with cheaters?

SimpleStacker

> there is no record in my resume of getting a B on a class 20 years ago...

Of course not, because it has been 20 years. Grades become irrelevant the moment you have better proof of skills, but when you’re fresh out of college that’s mostly all you have.

> That doesn't affect the person that was sitting next to you who didn't cheat.

It would if we apply to the same job and they don’t get employed because they have no degree while I do. It’s not that deep.

> I think we over-focus on grades.

Yes but do you have a better idea to get a quick assessment of the “skills” of a whole generation of people?

“Skills” because I agree, school isn’t there to make us happy, it’s there to know who can follow arbitrary rules the best and that’s a good prediction if you’ll be easy to work with hence you’re more likely to get a job.