A 20 minute video of him twitching with his fake nervous smile while the anchor rails into his BS isn't my definition of pomp destroying anything but his ego.

They are both full of shit. Pomp does have some valid points and at least he is fun to listen to, while the other guy has no idea what he's talking about. And the host also seems to be a very rude conversationalist that keeps interrupting his peer, with absolutely random bullshit.