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510 sats \ 10 replies \ @Cje95 8 Apr \ on: The Alien Enemies Act is an unconstitutional affront to civil liberties Politics_And_Law
I like Reason but I think they swung and missed with this. Deporting is a hell of a lot different than internment camps. If you came here illegally you already broke the law and a day in court wont save you. The court system is backlogged with people who did the right thing and even though who crossed illegally but turned themselves in to claim asylum. Those deported are not in that group
the analogy with Japanese internment is deceptive and misguided on so many levels
But is that what its really to be used for? are they invading? are we at war with the country? Politicians always think of a reason to use emergency powers. That's what we saw during covid as they stomped peoples freedom of assembly. Now the government can send you to a foreign prison with no trial and with no obligation to bring you back even when it was a "clerical error" (what the administration argued in court) that sent you there. We are already picking up American citizens because they are brown and speak Spanish. I don't want to live in a show me your papers country
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Honestly the surge by definition does fit an invasion and invasion doesn't have to be violent at all. Again the US isn't sending its people it is sending criminals. You broke the law illegally entering most countries don't give you a trial and a hell of a lot of them shoot you.
I think there might have been a single citizen arrested which is wild low given the sheer number or arrests. Those sent to El Salvador are not American citizens. The Maryland father not an American citizen everyone agrees on that.
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That's bs... there is no intent to come to raise an army and overthrow our government they are people seeking a better life and probably the only ones who will consider working these magical manufacturing jobs we are supposedly going to create
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Lets assume a libertarian paradise. I am the owner of several million acres that is adjacent to your million acres.
We don't have "citizens" but instead the people living on our land are more like "clients". They pay various fees for services we provide and generally this works pretty good.
Obviously security and protection are one of those services....however for whatever reason.... you allow unvetted people to enter your land. Upon realizing this, I concoct a plan: Whenever I have a habitual criminal in my area, I pay them a stipend, provide them travel, and escort them to your side of the border. Since I have "vetting process" for the people I allow on my land, those criminals are not allowed to return.
Its a good solution for me since its the most cost effective way for me to "export my criminals" to you. Sucks for you and the clients that live on your land as now they are going to experience more property / violent crime.
You should probably be sued by your clients....Ideally you should go out of business....
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excellent analogy
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That's not what invasion means man 😂😂
Haven't you ever heard of people talking about tourists invading their city for some event? They aren't thinking a military is rolling up 😂
Also you're kinda actually talking about more of a revolution or insurrection over an invasion btw
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everyone is seeking a better life
who is seeking a worse life?
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