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Google brings end-to-end encrypted Gmail to all www.theregister.com/2025/04/01/google_e2ee_gmail/

684 sats \ 25 comments \ @Roll 1 Apr security

Ahh tying to compete with proton Mail. Next up a bitcoin wallet

Indeed..... Google has found an compromise between security and usability, but no, it’s not the perfect E2EE that cypherpunks have been waiting for over 30 years. Yes, it will make purists scream, but for the first time, we have a solution that could finally democratize encrypted email beyond the usual tech circles.

83 sats \ 1 reply \ @028559d218 2 Apr

Bitcoin wallet... really???

100 sats \ 0 replies \ @BlokchainB 2 Apr

That’s the next logical step one would assume

21 sats \ 11 replies \ @Butterfinger 1 Apr

I don't trust them

0 sats \ 10 replies \ @Roll OP 1 Apr

Those World Companies and their intention :(

15 sats \ 9 replies \ @Butterfinger 1 Apr

Yes, I am self-hosting my own e-mail server and will never come back to other people's or company's servers.

10 sats \ 0 replies \ @nichro 2 Apr

How often do your emails get dropped/rejected when running a self-hosted email server these days? Always thought, in large part thanks to Google, it gets difficult to spin up self-hosted email without getting flagged by spam detectors or other reputation-based systems.

Edit: just saw you replied below to somewhat answer this. Hmm. Still looks like trouble but less than I expected.

0 sats \ 7 replies \ @unschooled 2 Apr

Wow - you are? Is it compatible with the other major servers? I can't remember who I was listening to, but I thought I heard that it's basically not worth the hassle at this point.

158 sats \ 4 replies \ @Butterfinger 2 Apr

Well I only had small problems like ipv6 compatibility with gmail, but it was easy to fix. Another one was forcing TLS 1.3 only. But in general it works very well, almost every IT expert tells me I am crazy and that I will have many problems, still it works very well. I only had to exclude my IP from blacklist like spamhaus when I set the mail server years ago, key thing is to have a fixed IP address obviously. All those "experts" saying it does not work and bla bla bla looks like they never did it in practice and just keep repeating what some incompetents say.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @anon 2 Apr

I only had to exclude my IP from blacklist like spamhaus

Did you pay the extortion? Spamhaus said I had to pay to remove myself from that one. Fuckers

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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @unschooled 2 Apr

It's all Greek to me, but super fascinating! Even the idea struck me as very cool, not having been around during the early days of the internet when - I think - this sort of thing would have been more common. Kudos for sticking with it and proving the bastards wrong.

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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @krispy_donkey 2 Apr

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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @Butterfinger 2 Apr

I forgot to mention I also run my company's mail server, which is a server that can't fail at all. And I am running it on a rpi4, it's so lightweight that it could be done on a rpi3.