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you are confusing http with dns. Are not the same thing. Nostr still depend on DNS but not http. nostr relays are using wss (websocket) and is different than http
0 sats \ 4 replies \ @ek 27 Mar
Websockets are based on HTTP. To open a websocket you send a special HTTP request.
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WebSocket is distinct from HTTP used to serve most webpages. Although they are different, RFC 6455 states that WebSocket "is designed to work over HTTP ports 443 and 80 as well as to support HTTP proxies and intermediaries", thus making it compatible with HTTP. To achieve compatibility, the WebSocket handshake uses the HTTP Upgrade header[3] to change from the HTTP protocol to the WebSocket protocol.
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0 sats \ 2 replies \ @ek 27 Mar
The last sentence in your quote confirms what I said
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but do not depend.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @ek 27 Mar
Mhh ok, fair
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so the nostr network can't be used to bind domains to IPs in a decentralized way?
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what is s DNS in fact? just an IP. You can use wss://84.26.71.58 for example, without a domain name. btw... there no "decentralized internet" you still depend on your ISP to assign you a public IP... and one day you will be forced to give away liberties and rights in order to have an IP.
All this with "decentralized social media" and crap like that is a myth as long we do not have a real decentralized way top manage IPs. You can have all the freedom you like on nostr, but one day your lovely gov will decide to cut your internet for what you said on nostr. And you can do nothing about that.
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Yes, but my question is instead of using a centralized server that says a certain domain is binded to a certain IP, could it be done using nostr relays to "gossip" the domain resolution instead of centralized servers?
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0 sats \ 6 replies \ @ek 27 Mar
Why should your ISP listen to some random gossip on nostr?
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you're right, makes no sense at all.
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20 sats \ 3 replies \ @ek 27 Mar
The only thing that makes sense is for nostr to create its own network like tor, i2p, cjdns and probably many more that nobody has ever heard of.
But "nostrnet" won’t replace clearnet (DNS+IPv4+IPv6) where 99.99% of all internet traffic happens.
It’s just going to be another tiny network that only a few people care about.
no they don't. But somebody else (from a gov agency or whatever) can see your posts and then if you link your real identity on nostr they can just go to your ISP and demand to be "liberated" by your internet access.
Internet ID is coming fast... and all these rhetoric of "decentralized nostr" is falling down to who is going to allow you to use internet.
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Again, what is a domain? A human readable IP conversion. The bigger problem is not on the DNS, but who is controlling the IPs.
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So the DNS autorirative servers are not a problem, can't they censor some websites/servers? Or it's all done on the IPs directly?
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @ek 27 Mar
They can because we need to trust someone to tell us the real IP.
It’s not great but I’m definitely not going to trust random nostr gossip.
The IP is the key. It can be taken any time from you and you are fucked, no matter how many domain names you have. LOL you never run your own website, self-hosted? Or your own email server?