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7 sats \ 1 reply \ @mister_monster 17 Feb \ parent \ on: Should convicted felons be allowed to vote after serving their time in prison? AskSN
Damn good explanation man.
Forming an organization like this though relies as much on exclusion as it does inclusion. There are people that must be excluded, not just from voting, but in my view, from an organization entirely. That is, of course, up to the organization. Some government might be nationalist for example, or another might execute serial murderers. The only thing I dislike is that people can't really voluntarily pick the one that most aligns with their values, and who has a place for them.
If an organization excludes some people, and another includes those same types of people, then one will outcompete the other, an "evolution of collective organisms" if you will. Success is achieved the closer your mental model approximates reality. So if you're right, states that do what you'd like will perform better than states that dont, all other things being equal.
You make a good point but we cannot decide all matters of government and law based upon the competitive nature of societies alone.
But if we do ask the question - Does excluding ex-cons from voting strengthen or weaken a society overall?
It is arguable of course but I would argue it doesn't- the benefit of including all citizens in the vote rather than excluding some of its most disadvantaged and alienated, would surely be greater than the cost.
The weighting of ex-cons in the vote result is unlikely to be significant whereas the cost of continuing to disadvantage and ostracise them is probably going to be greater.
Slightly obtuse but 'SAS Rogue Heroes' might be a relevant reference...at least decent entertainment.
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