Yea and I think that's why the HWW cash grab works so well. Setting up a secure device can sound like a daunting task and HWW vendors are happy to sell the self-custody equivalent of a weight-loss pill to users that don't understand the trade-offs (side-effects)

justin_shocknet

bitcoin_beginners

What if wallet makers go bust?

kilianbuhn

> Compromised devices are a problem no matter what software you use.

Exactly! And truly securing a device is mostly **recurring, time intensive, sometimes high pressure** work.

There's definitely something to be said for a security mechanism with less attack surface than your average zero-policy win11 device, but BIP39 offers no security at all in its currently most-deployed form: it is just cleartext. A long-form password to a weakly hashed brainwallet basically (remember those?)