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Robostats: publishing statistics around robosats

5382 sats \ 12 comments \ @optimism 16 Feb bitdevs

I was looking at some of the discussion happening in #883606 and after talking with @siggy47 decided to make a little statistics gathering app; to gain more insight into what's going on on robosats - for everyone.

You can find the live site at: http://tp4defxzepvm6igehdme27ewpakdqzrwj5qer2r7emxsydoruu7nxuyd.onion/

and the source at: http://gg6zxtreajiijztyy5g6bt5o6l3qu32nrg7eulyemlhxwwl6enk6ghad.onion/optimism/robostats

The todo is too big to list, but in the meantime feel free to use/clone/rip apart/pull req/comment/request features.

For those that don't want to start up their tor browser right now, this is what it looks like as of writing:

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130 sats \ 0 replies \ @TheMorningStar 16 Feb

Thanks for sharing this. Never seen any Stats for Robosats before.

172 sats \ 3 replies \ @Scroogey 16 Feb

Could you aggregate this over time?

Like a graph showing if there's a time of the day (or a day of the week) when the premium is especially high or low, or when depth is maximal, for a specific currency?

72 sats \ 2 replies \ @optimism OP 16 Feb

Yes. I started working on this Friday evening and then decided to postpone the feature. I think that persistence needs careful design and thought: we of course don't want to deanonymize people by patterns they accidentally create.

There are some nasty data elements in the protocol, like a geolocation pair and usernames/hashes that may turn a statistics app into a surveillance tool - I'm not sure if the protocol and its users are ready to defend against that, yet. When we do, it would be good to also have a recommendation to help people counter a passive observer - this needs some preparation and study of what defenses are in place.

100 sats \ 1 reply \ @siggy47 16 Feb

You raise important issues. Have you brought this up with devs?

36 sats \ 0 replies \ @optimism OP 16 Feb

Not yet. I'm a big fan of doing some research first - prevents wasting precious developer time. But I will if I find a tangible risk.

100 sats \ 3 replies \ @siggy47 16 Feb

What would also really be nice would be a way to track the premium/discount of the various fiat payment methods.

36 sats \ 2 replies \ @optimism OP 16 Feb

Logged it as a feature request: http://gg6zxtreajiijztyy5g6bt5o6l3qu32nrg7eulyemlhxwwl6enk6ghad.onion/optimism/robostats/issues/2

If the premium field from the market endpoints is reliable (I'd want to do the math to double check) then this can be easy.

PS: I did see some offers discounting gift cards by up to 10% - not sure if that's an actual business model or a scam model w/ carded or fake gift cards.

100 sats \ 1 reply \ @siggy47 16 Feb

Re gift cards. It's legit. I have personal experience. Amazon cards seem to typically carry a 5% premium to buy bitcoin. Google Play cards are higher- I have seen 15%.

36 sats \ 0 replies \ @optimism OP 16 Feb

Thanks! That's good info.

100 sats \ 0 replies \ @Jon_Hodl 16 Feb

Great to see this at a glance.

Thanks for sharing.

100 sats \ 0 replies \ @LibertasBR 16 Feb

Thank you for making this more transparent.

100 sats \ 0 replies \ @siggy47 16 Feb

Thanks for this. I was checking it out earlier. Unfortunately my meetup got cancelled due to weather, but I will spread the word.