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46 sats \ 8 replies \ @Aardvark OP 15 Feb \ parent \ on: Should convicted felons be allowed to vote after serving their time in prison? AskSN
Personally I think our entire legal system is fucked anyhow. Part of that is that people don't have a path back into normal society.
The biggest problem with the justice system is that people do not understand what beyond a reasonable doubt means.
Juries tend to put law enforcement on a pedestal (thanks to slave training..i mean public school). Their attitude is generally: "whelp! If they did not do it why would the nice policeman and lawyer try to put them away?" They do not appreciate the idea that we are born free. That there should be an overwhelming bias toward acquittal and that the burden of proof ought to be heavy.
The standard to be a voter and a jury member should be much higher. Founders had it right but americans got soft and let marxists infiltrate and erode our freedoms. This is a great example.
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In school we had "officer friendly" come and tell us how much we should trust the police and that we should never be afraid to tell them anything.
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I already understood this was a problem, but I didn't fully appreciate it until I was in jury selection. The majority of potential jurors answered "yes" to "Do you assume a police officer is always telling the truth?" and "Would you always side with a police officer's claim over a defendant's?"
The only dissenters to all the deranged sycophantic questions were me, an old hippie defense attorney, and a young progressive lady.
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That's legitimately disgusting. It's the cops job to prove you guilty, and lying is encouraged.
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It was really gross and even worse, the selected jurors were the most blindly trusting of the cops.
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I don't think voting is particularly important, but some of the other lifetime restrictions on felons are pretty egregious. My understanding is that many occupational licenses just can't be obtained by anyone with a felony conviction.
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We're definitely in agreement with voting not being important, but I think it just another thing that demonstrates how our system isn't doing what it's supposed to be doing.
I think removing the right to own a firearm is probably way more of a problem than voting.
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If voting is unimportant then democracy would be too- so what would you replace it with?
Anarchy?
Where/when has that ever worked?
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