"Admit it. Sometimes you just need a big strong man." -Xander Harris
Buffy fans should appreciate that reference. It's one of my favorite lines to quote around the house, whenever my wife needs help opening jars.
Today, I said it to my daughter when she tried to open the orange juice herself, which earned a side-eye from the wife. It also led me to think about a possible research hypothesis.
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I've heard that grip strength has been declining in men, to the point where there's barely a difference anymore between men and women.
Is it possible that something as seemingly trivial as not being any more able to open jars, is reducing the rate of relationship formation?
This was one area where men have historically been able to clearly demonstrate some value.
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I have no idea what the data looks like on either side of this question (grip strength or relationship formation), so I can't say much about specific data problems.
However, there is definitely going to be an issue with "the dreaded third thing". In particular, I'm concerned with how to isolate the impact of grip strength decline from other effects of testosterone decline. Ideally, we'd be able to do a longitudinal study of men, where their grip strengths and testosterone levels are recorded, as well as their relationship status over time.
Since there's no chance of doing that study, the best hope would be to put together some population level numbers over time and see if relationship formation rates still have a correlation with grip strength, after controlling for average testosterone levels.
I hope you enjoyed this half-baked idea. I mentioned to @denlillaapan that it might be fun to share ideas like this on SN. In all likelihood, no one will ever take these ideas any further, but they still might prompt fun discussions.
Not sure I am as strong as I used to be but I am still the designated jar/bottle opener in the household so I am not completely useless yet.
It can't hurt to occasionally be able to demonstrate irreplaceability .
It'll surely play it's part along with other points such as the decline of the average male's test-levels, but I think the biggest reason for the decline in relationships / higher divorce rates is that modern women simply don't need a man like they did before our beloved boomers were a thing.
All the less needed, because young men don't even have an advantage in jar opening.
Me included, it's pretty awkward seeing me trying to open a stiff jar most of the time.
You really like to point that one out, huh?
It used to be one of the most pronounced and consistent sex differences.
Yep... Once robotically enhanced limbs become a thing, I'll be the first one to sign up and become the jar-opener I always should've been...
Worse, what you want is grip strength in men in ~1950 (maybe military has some test?). Maybe follow/find numbers of divorce and length or marriage for people with above/below average grip strength?
Just spitballing but yeah
I think there might be grip strength data going back a long time. Probably from the military.
I can't imagine we know anything about divorce rates or marriage longevity by grip strength, though. Maybe, there's some regional or demographic information on grip strength over time.
You know that you have been replaced when the wife introduce you to this.
Hahaha seriously, my wife buys that and I leave her 😂.
It's a real threat, but tool use generally falls under my male duties. Also, after she loses it, my services will once again be required.
I'm not entirely sure what results you want to get by this attempt. There's hardly any correlation to testosterone levels and relationship strength with viagras easily available.
With that being said, honestly I've never been the designated jar/bottle opener in my family as everyone including women (except my wife) seem to possess enough strength. Fyi, We boast a big combined family.
There's almost certainly a correlation, both are in decline. Whether or not there's a causal relationship, I don't know.
Ok.
This is something that I wanna tell you for a change. ;)
Wow! That's more than I've gotten off of that post.
Could be a good time for everyone to take grip strength training seriously https://www.nerdfitness.com/blog/how-to-improve-your-wrist-mobility-and-grip-strength/