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35 sats \ 6 replies \ @Rothbardian_fanatic OP 14 Feb \ parent \ on: TGIF: Emergency! Emergency? conspiracy
So, then, the question becomes does emergency declarations and suspensions of law and liberties enhance or destroy said liberties and laws? If the President, and I don’t care which President it is or was, declares emergencies and usurps congressional prerogatives and defies courts in the name of ”protecting liberty” he or she should be able to do whatever he or she thinks is necessary. I can see the President, any President, declaring emergencies, suspending constitutions, laws and liberties at the literal drop of a hat.
It's certainly not about "in the name of". If the emergency powers are being used to gut the bureaucracy, I'm fine with it. If they're being used to infringe on private civilians rights, I'm against it.
You have to bear in mind that the bad guys are never going to respect our rights, so setting bad precedent is an overrated concern.
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I have to disagree to a point. The ends justify the means! may not be the most workable ethical situation I can think of. The ends of getting rid of parasites doesn’t mean it is OK to use an H-bomb on them as the means! We don’t have to do anything bad. OBummer passed some laws that make what Trump is doing completely legal, up to and including naming DOGE as a special commission with the power to shut down and/or fire employees.
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Using a metaphorical H-Bomb would violate the rights of private civilians, presumably. I'm strictly saying that it is best for the law to always be wielded in the way that maximizes liberty. What's the preferable alternative to that?
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What's the preferable alternative to that?
Not having the law in the first place?!?!?! We don’t need laws to dictate action in every little part of our lives. I think liberty is best maintained without laws that intrude into an individuals life. Negative rights are the only rights that are the way to guard freedom, there are no such things as positive rights. Positive rights make someone a slave to someone else.
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We agree that repeal is the best option.
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Yes, repeal is a good option, however, better yet, is to never make such laws in the first place. The legislators do not have the foggiest idea of what is in the constitution in the US. It would be nice to repeal the for the general welfare clause.